April 18, 2024

28 thoughts on “Umichan Boxer updates

  1. To be honest with you, I like UMCC better than UCMH. The reason why that is because when you played as Maiko, you’d get to flirt with other NPC’s. When you explained the ‘flirt’ button, it reminded me so much of UMCC. You’d talked to them, improve their relationship, and then fuck, that’s what made the game so exciting. I was thinking that instead from a girl’s point of view, it should able to alternate which gender to choose from. Using the main storyline and using main characters like Maiko and Luma for example , you should get to play the female POV and playing David and Kyle for example as the male POV. As the player, your goal is to make the NPC you decide to choose to have a ‘deeper relationship’ with. The deeper your relationship with a certain NPC, the more sex scenes and experience you’ll unlock for that character. Of course, the player has a option to have sex with other characters too. By the end of the gameplay, whatever ending the player chooses at the end like for example, Maiko ending up with David, the achievement “Lust” is unlocked. You’d be able to view the sex scenes you’ve unlock for that character and then, you’ll be able to find more endings to unlock. That’s what made UMCC so exciting to play. For the sex club however, not sure where that idea is going. I remember in UMCC, the sex club where there were just only sex animation with different models. What you just explained, (sorry I couldn’t read it, you’ve got to proofread you’re stuff man, I get that you’re busy but make it legible to read) But when you release the demo, I may get an idea of it eventually? But anyways, this is just an idea I have in mind because of how much I missed UMCC. Don’t stress yourself, Vortex of releasing the games at a certain date. Take your time and keep up the good work. Love your content, man.

    1. Just signed up to rely to Nico’s comment on his idea. I did like UMCC better than UMCH because of how you would flirt with other characters. I like Nico’s idea because of how you could ‘interact’ with other characters but get to choose any character you want even in the main storyline. The deeper your relationship goes, the more ‘interaction’ between the players. And, the game should end in which the player chooses to end it. In my honest opinion, Nico’s idea is perfect, I like it. (Lol, on the proofreading though.) But keep it up, Vortex!

    2. Yes! I love this concept, and that’s what I thought UMCH was going to be at first.
      I still like UMCH, but it doesn’t compare to the freedom in UMCC, and the fun you have playing UMCC.
      UMCC for me is the ultimate hentai ame, just wished the support for it would continue, like new scenes and stuff every now and then.

      1. I’m glad some people agree with me. UMCC is the ultimate hentai game which all hentai games should be about. But UMCC isn’t updated anymore sadly, if only the stuff from UCMH were incorporated into UMCC, it would’ve been a fantastic game!

        1. Nice to see other people appreciate UMCC’s freedom aspects. Something about the level of individual character choices really made it feel special. Seeing some of that coming back here with the sluttier choices is really nice. Hopefully enough people are invested in this game for it to get even more features.

    3. @nico
      @bowwow
      @blackoni
      @unticop

      I actually don’t like umcc for the same reasons you all like it. Now there are several reasons why I do like it, but the irony is, the more you mention why you like it, the more it reminds me of why I don’t.

      like yourselves, I thought umcc was a great idea at first also. However I realized that a sex scene is not even half as good without a proper foundation of solid gameplay, story, context, and character personality. These are all extremely important to only when you finally get to the scene, but to my passion and creativity in making games. ultimately all of this was lost in umcc. Each update made it worse. Made it less of a game and more about being interactive porn with a lot of the aforementioned tossed out the window. And the nonsensical things you can do or that happens in umcc fall under what I can only refer as goofy hentai game logic.

      isn’t it funny how the characters that don’t really do sex much will do the exact same sexual activities as the most slutty characters? Just because Maiko talked to a character more or less times about homework? Now at any moment they will follow Maiko and join her in any sex activity without any hesitation, resistance, consequence, question, concern, or anything. you know, believable things that a person would actually do instead of being silent up until the point where they are naked hovering over a penis or already engaged in sex. Call this freedom or whatever you want, it just straight up doesn’t make any sense at all, even for a game like this. You like it for that reason, and I hear you guys, but there are ways to make a game good and have freedom without logic being totally flawed. All games should be like that? definitely not.

      It just something that I never got around to implementing. Characters like Amber, Riley, Lynn were supposed to bail out on Maiko if she tried to do this and it would lower their relationship levels by a lot. You want me to update umcc? that is the first thing I would do. Adding more nonsense scenes would not be something I would do. And you can see I haven’t been. Stopped working on it entirely even.

      You actually don’t even have to say a single line of dialogue to a character at all in umcc. all you have to do is beat Luma in a few things, and suddenly half the student body becomes okay with going with Maiko and getting gang banged.

      Nico you describe gaining points to unlock sex scenes. click talk, gain points. repeat x times, unlock sex. This is not inherently exciting. The exciting part is seeing what the character would say, how they would react through body gestures and facial expressions. This is because I take time to craft interesting characters with a base foundation in lore. And I guess for you guys it’s fun to see how all that is tossed out the window so you can fap. Then go back to the game making sense after that. It needs to make sense for the entire game.

      I mentioned there are ways to have the game have freedom to see all characters in a sex scene without it being nonsensical, here is one example. First of all, certain characters defiantly will not join Maiko for gang bang just by getting relationship points high. You need to set them up on date with a dude first, play match maker. Relationships point will just make them ok with going on a date with different people. Maybe as a group with Maiko, the girl she wants to be more open to sex, and the guy. The guys needs points also. Maiko needs to say things during the date, or use items, or the date will fail. The girl will gradually be more open to having sex with that dude, then you can see the scene. More dates leads to her gradually being more open to doing whatever sex stuff that dude likes specifically. hang out with other guys for her to be more open to other things. Same thing with yuri, you hang out with them and with Maiko’s girlfriends like pattie. You don’t just go from 0 to 100 because Maiko ran faster than Luma like in umcc. Naturally certain girls are already open to sex and you don’t need to hangout with them or have them on date to like certain things, but you still can to learn more about the girl. Also parts of the game like Natan’s spy camera network, you would not see certain characters matched up having sex until they dated enough times. Now whether you like the idea or not, it makes way more sense than that is currently there.

      you guys are are also missing the fact that, unlike games made by other developers, umch/cc is not where the story begins and ends. There is story that happens both before and after it that involve Maiko. The can’t just have a whatever ending. Later on, Maiko actually lives with Chris and a character named Ghesit. It is why I’m not using main characters as the focus in this boxer game. So I have have a more leeway for situations and endings. My ultimate goal in my main titles is to convey the story not just make anything to quickly fap to without a care that it makes any sense or not. And be void of any actual gameplay that you can win for lose. If you literally only care about the sex so much that it is totally fine that it doesn’t actually make much or any sense how it happens, then that is not something you should expect from me. But having said that, this game would be the best bet. Also thanks for the feedback, it is appreciated and I don’t mean to sound harsh if I come off that way. I just strongly disagree. And hopefully I have explained why.

      also you can see how umch fits into the grand scheme of things here:
      http://spiralvortexplay.com/svp/2016/09/28/jlck-timeline-and-outline-contains-spoilers/

      1. @nico
        @bowwow
        @blackoni
        @unticop
        @vortex00

        Hey guys. I rarely post these days, but since this became a big discussion and I have been here since umcc first builds I think I should throw my 2 cents about it.

        I do like UMCC, I like its freedom and all the things mentioned by everyone. But I don’t think its a game we should try to go back for nowadays. I played it so many times and did enjoy that aspect, but a good example I have of it and that I like to compare is GTA. Why? Seems like when you first play GTA and you dont wanna do missions, you know? So you just keep stealing cars, running away and killing people just for fun, but it gets boring after some time. And thats what happened to me with UMCC after a while…
        When playing a hentai game, I like the aspect of it being a “game” and having hentai in it. So if we get GTA and play it how it was designed for and try to finish its story, there are fun quests to discover there and much more that the sandbox mode can’t offer us.
        I like getting to know each character, you can see older posts of mine here dated from 2012 and maybe older. Why do I like Lynn? Leyah and Yui? They have personalities I like, they have a development I like. Not just a design I find attractive, you know? And each time I get to know them, to see Leyah act cute and say nyan~ like she does, makes me eager to unlock the next sex scene with her!
        You can see Vortex has such a rich lore prepared to us, VNs he plans to release, so many characters to interact between them and so much more! There are many generic hentais everywhere, why jeopardize something so good so we can have something from the past back?
        UMCC was good at its time, it was an experience, but we are past that… there was ARIA, UMCH, ARIO and more after that, one title better than the other, there were missteps too, but Vortex always listened to feedback and tried to fix or make what was needed to get better. I think I even read someone say “take the UMCH stuff to UMCC”, why? UMCH is new, has new stuff planned, did you guys saw all the updates planned for it just released a couple of days? I just can’t understand… I played UMCC many times, i can safely say i have more than 100h on it because i beta tested it and experimented a lot too, but after UMCH, I rarely came back there, because all that i felt that was missing on umcc is on umch (character development, better minigames [i had so many issues with the shooting gallery at the arcade!] and story) the sex part is being worked on and will only get better from this point and on. The boxer mini seems it will try to bring the best of both worlds, so again, why do you guys want Vortex to use his resources (money, time, art and etc), he could be working on new updates and these new projects to go back to UMCC? For me that would be a huge high risk/low return choice with little to no benefits…
        To me a game needs to be challenging and fun. Otherwise its not a game, sorry guys… My favorite game here is Amp Story and It rewards you with sex at the end, not by losing at each lvl. And I am passionate by its gameplay that I keep talking to vortex everytime I have the chance! I wouldnt play a game if I died to a Boss and he rewarded me with something… I like the challenge of killing it! Thats what makes it more rewarding when unlocking a sex scene to me, at least.

      2. @vortex00

        Sorry if it sounded like I was being disrespectful about UMCH. That was never my intent. I just wanted to say that one aspect I liked a lot in UMCC was the openness to it. I know that UMCH’s goals and design are completely different and in many ways contradictory to it’s predecessor. I never wanted it to sound like I was saying one’s better than the other. UMCC’s openness is great but it doesn’t have the same depth that a more focused game like UMCH has. Both are incredibly unique and because of that I haven’t found any game that feels quite like UMCC after you stopped working on it. So I just wanted to say I’m just glad to see some of it returning in this separate game. That way I can enjoy the strengths of UMCC without weakening the plot overall.

        1. @vortex00

          Sorry too if sounded disrespectful to UMCH or your work in general, you’re my favorite creator.
          I totally agree with your argument, and @Wilsonthegreen/unticop makes a good point, the two together: freedom to “build” your Maiko and the storytelling is the perfect match.

          Like when you added dialogue to the hentai scenes in UMCC, it was mindblowing how the game became so much better with just this detail.
          I’m looking forward for Umichan Boxer, and will play every new version of UMCH.

          And I say these about UMCC because I too have searched everywhere in the internet for a good hentai game like UMCC, and the closest that I found was Girl Life, but even that doesn’t compare to the quality in UMCC.
          PS: even though Girl Life is set in Russia, I always make my character named Maiko xD

      3. Vortex, I’m sorry I came out like that. I shouldn’t have wrote that comment in the first place. When I looked at my comment once again, I was just selfish and wanted it for myself and not yours. It’s your game after all, and can’t believe I disrespected you like that. You’re the game creator, you get to decide what you want to implement into the game. Every time you release something, it’s always exciting and I always can’t wait for more! Not because of the ‘hentai’, (even though most people come here, lol) because of the intriguing characters you’ve created. From Maiko innocent personality to David twisted, perverted personality. The setting and how compelling you tell the storyline is why I play the games! When I found your work on Newgrounds, you were instantly my top favorite creators. The first too! Once again, I’m sorry and I hope you can deliver more exciting content to tell! I’m sorry if I came out too harsh as well, just keep amazing us, Vortex!

      4. I would be so down with playing serial matchmaker. Admittedly, I quite like the talking to get hearts system in UMCC, though at the end, it just became smashing that one option that you know they would like. My fave part of UMCC/UMCH are the diverse characters so I just I will always have a soft spot for dragging Tsugo/Savori around even if it didn’t really amount to much in UMCC.

        So I’m very excited for this new game, since it sounds like you can interact with characters from a fresh point of view without Maiko’s characterization getting in the way. If I can be the boxing queen and be bffs with best girl Amber, it’s a thumbs up for me.

        1. yeah I plan for you to be able to do this. thoguh it is not totally clear exactly how it will all work. you will basically be able to have a best friend, and the dude your character had sex with last.

          it is possible this could be the same person also. this in combination with, your outfit, fan count, etc will play roles in getting certain friends and characters or seeing certain scenes etc. for example you wont be able to be friends with Luma very easily, especially if Riley is your current best friend. Same with Savori, it will be hard if Kyle is your best friend. But easy if Jeni is your best friend. And Jeni likes you from showing skill in boxing, etc. just things like that. Also as shown in the post there will be more than just those main characters. A lot of the more random’ish characters like Trey, Coey, Chester, will play a much bigger role here.

          1. Ohh, I actually really dig most of the background characters. Some of those designs are too cute to pass for a generic background person. I’m really glad to see you’re adding more character to them!

      5. I dont really disagree with any of your points regarding freedom and logic in video-games, but I think you’re wrong when you say people preferred UMCC because it made less sense or because they just wanted to get to the porn faster, I think people just preferred UMCC because it was more reactive to the player’s decisions than UMCH and they were willing to forgive the non-sensical stuff as a limitation of the game.

        I think the main example of this would be the clothing options, in UMCH I dont even know why we have a button to switch clothes, its not like you ever have the option of walking around in a different set of clothes than the intended ones, now, Im not saying you have to let the player have Maiko walk around naked or anything like that, but I dont see why we shouldnt be able to, for example, socialize in the cafe wearing something other than the cafe uniform and get some slightly different interactions out of it (for example, Maiko replying to some interactions by saying she isnt working today, or that she is taking a break), players like when the game has different reactions to the things they do, even if its in small ways.
        UMCC may have made no sense, but at least it had that with the NPCs responding differently to a nude Maiko or to a “sticky” Maiko (I may be mistaken, but I think there were even some different responses when wearing the clothes you could buy from the boutique).

        I do think UMCH is a better game than UMCC in many ways (the minigames are much better, the dialogue and the quests are better, the art has improved greatly), but it disables the player from trying to do things, and that sometimes makes it feel like it has less potential to grow than UMCC had. If you want to make UMCH like that because you believe it will be better for the story and the lore, its fine, but you said it yourself, you can have freedom without it being non-sensical.

        1. Hi Thiago, you pretty far off about clothing, so I wanted to start there. You say you are not saying I have to let the player walk around naked, but how is clothing different in UMCC from UMCH besides being able walking around naked?

          in Maiko’s house she auto changes in to Bra or naked, depending on what you have set. when she leave she auto changes into school. even if you were naked when you went home.

          In the gym, you only have boxing/swim/run which are the same single outfit in UMCC and then the cheerleader which was added later. Try to leave the gym wearing either of these and Maiko will either not leave, or her clothes will auto change back into school. try to access the pool in cheerleader and Maiko won’t do it. Also outside counts as the gym in umcc, it is the same area which is why you can still have the gym outfit on.

          And the only difference in dialogue comes from being naked, covered in cum, or both. it is not based on clothes at all in UMCC, so idk why you decided to strike that as a negative for UMCH. There’s no dialogue difference with clothing in UMCC either.

          when Maiko leaves the gym, if she is not in nude hack, she auto-changes back into school outfit. And yes I do mean hack in all sense of the word. walking to area naked wasn’t originally even in the game at all. There’s no way Maiko would walk around topless, ever on purpose. it was added as a fan request hack just for the silliness of it, but new people that played the game for the first time assumed she is fine doing that. Okay so she is naked now. but everyone still said the same thing as clothed. So then people wanted reactions for being naked, then people wanted reaction for cum, then people wanted reaction both naked and cum, you can see the snowball effect kicking in so I had to pump the brakes. The point is nobody cared about reactions for different clothing in umcc, or anything else normal like that heh. It was all about reaction to something doesn’t really make sense in the first place.

          the main reactable things you can try in UMCC is sex and if you are naked/sticky or not. Yeah it is funny to see how they react to suddenly being naked engaged in sex out of nowhere. and seeing how people react to Maiko being naked, sticky, or both. The only reaction stuff in UMCC I can co-sign for is the talk wheel and the shower. For the shower I have something similar in UMCH how the shower animation changes if Pattie is present. There will likely be one with Riley during the time when she is at Maiko’s house. Possibly more characters also.

          As for anything else there is a equivalent in UMCH. I don’t need a question wheel in UMCH because they actually talk about things based on their personality. in UMCC Maiko can only talk to them about certain topics and they reply if they like it or not. This doesn’t achieve the objective of showing their personality as I original intended as much as it does in UMCH. In UMCH you can walk into a group conversation about something and begin to identify personalities based seeing a couple of them. and certain ones you can see how Maiko might respond. And some lead to sex scenes. As for potential to grow, there is plenty. You can see it in my various game updates and my posts about future content. It really speaks for itself.

          Having said all that, to answer your question. There is a clothes button for the realism and personality it brings. Did you even notice Maiko actually says things now when she changes clothes? It helps to describes her personalty more and thoughts about what she is wearing so players can know she feels about it.

          Also what else is Maiko going to walk into the cafe in except school outfit? She will not walk outside the school in a swim, gym or anything else, and you see other students doing the either in UMCH or UMCC. the only exception is Luma at the end of the game. Casual clothes is not added to the game yet so I will cross that bridge when I get to it.

          And Maiko can walk into the cafe in her school outfit if you don’t get a socialize scene. you can set this in the tablet. As for why Maiko can only socialize in the cafe in her uniform is because it used to be something called “Greet” not socialize. Maiko could greet customers who entered the cafe while working there, to help gain popularity. She can’t work in the cafe to greet people in her school outfit. The same way you can’t work at restaurant that a uniform dress-code in your casual or school clothing. It turned into socialize later but still acts as a greet. Most of the social scenes there are related to customer entering the cafe. As I mentioned earlier, if I sound harsh it is not my intention, I just want to make sure i am explaining clearly why I have it the way I have it in UMCH.

          Some people may find this boxing game more fun than UMCH. which is fine. that’s why I decide to make it. It will defiantly have more of that “I want to see what happen when” thing going on here.

          in this boxing game as I mentioned in the post already, characters in this boxing game will have different dialogue based on what you are wearing. The character can wear different outfits in all areas. but will get into different amount of trouble if they bump into a teacher while wearing something out of place. a teacher will tell you to go to the pool if you are in swimsuit but you wont get in much trouble. but if you have wet swimsuit where people can see your characters nipples, teachers will dry you off and you will get a moderate trouble. being naked or in skimpy bikini nets you lot of trouble if you bump into a teacher. Unlike UMCC might lead you to believe, Maiko would not walk around naked. In fact this random character doesn’t willingly walk around naked either. Jay has to steal her clothes. I also have working a face generator instead of selecting premade heads. you will be able to choose your eye style, eye color, hair, and mouth. I might also have basic personalities settings.

  2. Not sure if the concept is to be sandbox in aspect or visual novel, but maybe Umichan Classroom Adventure? (UMCA?)

    1. Thanks for the idea. not entirely sure on sandbox or VN at the moment. likely more sandbox side. Adventure seems kind of outdoor’ish though so idk heh.

  3. hey vortex, look, I have some bug I guess – when Im in cafe there are tobi, Jeni and some other dude show up. Dialogue is like “its her, red head with big tits, I love big tits” and when I click on the heart button I see nothing but blankn screen with Maiko’s hair. Is there any way to see the H scene itself or is it not fixed yet?

    1. thanks, but the two scenes you mentioned seems to be working fine so I would need more information. it maybe take some time to load perhaps. What version are playing? and what browser or flash player? also if it is patreon version you need to contact me there and not randomly in a post about different game. if it is the public game you need to post on the game page, or in bug section of the forums.

      http://spiralvortexplay.com/svp/umichan-maiko-classroom-havoc/

  4. I just have one question.

    Will there be a part in the game where in certain locations in te game you will see a random slut character in the nude/clothing with cum over thier face. (Bukkake)

    Lets just say she serviced in public areas as the situation and she gets paid.

    1. when you say random slut, are you talking about a npc or the player character?

      should like that could be from a double hand-job.

      1. NPC like Stacy, Roise, Zytra… etc (take your pick of whose personality suits this the most).

        A double handjob is a bit too plain to me, although that could be a starter scene leading to a blowjob/deepthroat scene then ending at a bukkake shot to the face (cum, like in your other storyline H-scene, be a bit much due to intense sexual stimulation)

        I am picturing like this after the scene: (Just like Dizzy scene in the forest)

        After the random H-scene the player stumbles onto the slut NPC with cum over her face or body as she was putting her clothes on
        Slut NPC however doesn’t notice her and just puts the clothes on and leaves with cum on her face.

        1. Well anyways. I still appreciate the work you have done and i look forward to where you want the story of UMCH to go to (In detail).

  5. @nico
    @blackoni
    @unticop
    @jccq89

    no worries guys. I think as a artist I just look at my work more critically and notice things you may not see. people liked umcc as it was so I just ignored the issues for a while and kept updating.. but I really could no longer bear ignoring the problems, so just left it alone and moved on and let people have fun with the way that it was. yes UMCC is very unique and I’d say to this day there is nothing like it, not even UMCH.

    This this game it will be similar but work little differently. a little more simple, yet complex. it will have some consequence. This is not to be confused with punishment. I don’t want to punish players so the consequences will not be devastating, they will likely just set you back a bit if you run into a teacher the the person rejects you. I also don’t plan to have relationship points, but you will still need to figure out what a character likes to be successful. they will give you hints if they reject you or you talk to them. what they like ranges from outfit, to the friends you have, etc. some of the guys may not accept you until you becomes best friends with a girl character they really like. some you may have to beat at boxing first, some will just give in based on if you have a sexy outfit on or not, some are into cafe girls, so will only accept if you are friends with a cafe girl and have a cafe uniform on, etc. you will have figure it out for each character. you can probably also stalk their social media to find out info on them. But for this upcoming test they will accept without much requirement but we’ll see how much I get done.

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