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December 18, 2017
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Playing UMCH, there are many things I love about the game….but then there are some things I would love to tweak. For example, since we just got “Stand-in” I was thinking why isn’t there a Mod that allows Zytra to be a Cherry Girl, like after the Affluently Ineffective mission, there is a 1/4 chance that Leyah will be replaced by Zytra (Since the two still need to worry about money, Zyta works part time there). Then of course there is some practical stuff as well, like in my game if Pattie is invited over she is constantly switching between her two spots sporadically. I don’t invite her over because I get a headache when I do. 

 

It be cool if there was a easy way to make mods of the game since it’s no longer getting updates.

December 18, 2017
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Thanks for the idea. I tried this in both ARIA and UMCC but it was very rarely used. However having said that, what kind of customization or mods would you like to see? you mentioned custom cafe girls. anything else?

December 21, 2017
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Hmm…a couple of ideas that come to mind are stuff like adding a scene or at least more character based interactions with Roise and her mom on the board walk. There is really no reason to go to the boardwalk in the game unless your trying to do a no sex run to get more cash.

 

One idea I suggested a while ago, which turned out to be a glorious bug, was when both Pattie and Riley are invited over, both of their shower animations play. I was thinking custom dialogue for that scene at the very least, and maybe an extra scene added to the shower scene if you want to go all out.

 

Maybe a Sentinel championship? Just to make upgrading and playing the sentinel game more rewarding. Maybe a in-game cash prize for making it into the top 3, and a boost in popularity.

 

What about a swimming match against Luma, or maybe all the best swimming results are posted and you need to beat Luma’s best time for additional popularity.

 

Maybe bring back sex club. It’s mentioned that Stacey runs it now, but I want to see it and her in action. Maybe have it that after you beat Jeni in boxing it’s unlocked, and you go and you can see all the scenes from the back room in the cafe there, but with a different background of course. Maybe even adding a quest to expand the club by trying to recruit more students to it. Not all the girls will join obviously, but for some potential members like Luma, you need to find ways to convince them to join, like inciting her competitiveness.

 

That’s all I can think of right now. But i can see the game being expanded quite a bit.

December 25, 2017
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The thing about expanding the game is creating more art in the old style.
one reason I am moving on is because ttrop has difficulty drawing the same way he did 2 + years ago. I guess that is kind of a benefit of using 3D models vs 2D art.

Ignoring that, I’m not really sure how to mod this stuff in really outside of continuing development to add more stuff to the game. Maybe I can think of some way to make a plugin manager. and a template for creating new areas.

A lot of people like the sex club stuff but it is essentially the cafe. Maybe it doesn’t seem the same because you are not bringing girls to it?

It seems a focus the sex club stuff (ie. a brothel manager) would be better in a different game that focuses on it. maybe you can set up a sex business deals with holly in the cafe, your own secret club up in the school, and maybe the lingerie shop and other places.

I think sub stories could be in that game. for example to get many random girl you just pay them but some of the main girl you need to do their side objective.

thoughts?

December 26, 2017
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Yeah, maybe having a mini-game specifically surrounded around Sex club would be better. The game could be about starting Sex Club and trying to recruit people into the club, while also trying to find way’s to hide the club’s existence from the school staff.

 

The main difference between Sex Club and the cafe is that it’s known to everyone that the Cafe has “special services”. You just need to ask for them. Sex Club however is secretive by nature. You need to hide it from School Staff, find a room to reserve for the club, but you also need it to change frequently to avoid suspicion. You need to pay off people, you need to raise funds for the club, but you can’t do it through the traditional sense of asking the school. You cold argue that having the cafe can work on the funds, but let’s face it, if Stacey is running it, there’s no way she will use all of her money for running the club, maybe Holly would do a sponsorship, or cut a deal for advertisement, but all under the table.

 

This could actually be a good game just staring Stacey. Stacey running the club, and you could even see her and Luma’s home and personal life with it.

December 27, 2017
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Ah thanks for the perspective. Though a lot of that is I guess implied. there is no money involved in the sex club in umcc and it is in the same location.

The cafe is known to seemingly everyone but the GemCo authorities. In the same way the sex club is know to students but not the teaches. Only Natan knows about it. In UMCC, when the GemCo agents would appear, you would not be able to do sex stuff in the cafe because it is actually illegal also.

With Stacy you wanted to have her as playable or play as a male?

December 29, 2017
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I think it be better to play as Stacy. We know a lot about Maiko, playing her for 2 main games and countless mini games, and we can infer a lot from characters like Pattie, Riley, Zytra, Leyah and Savori, but Luma and Stacy we know surprisingly little about. So playing as Stacy we can learn more about Stacy and Luma’s personal life, but also as President of the sex club, she has more responsibilities to look over than any Joe Schmo in the club, so I think there are more game mechanics possible playing as her.

Of course we all know sex club is a non-profit that any of the students can partake in, but all clubs, x-rated or not, all need money to run. Here’s a good example of how that can work.

Stacy has scheduled a meeting for Thursday (maybe you need to chose a certain day every week to meet), but doesn’t have place to meet. She has a few options. She can go to faculty and pay X amount to reserve the room for the day. She can cut a deal with one of the teachers to reserve it (Alma needs X, and she’ll allow you to reserve it), or she goes to coach Tom and fucks him to use the boxing arena (though there is a higher % chance of being caught in the Boxing arena). However if she can’t reserve a room for that week, then she looses members. If she doesn’t have enough money, she can schedule a day before hand to hold a money raising event for the club (a car wash that also offers blow jobs), and the amount of money you raise depends on who works that day (stats), how many people are working, and how well it’s advertised outside of school.

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I decided to create some quick pics for game Idea, but I can’t figure out for the life of me how to insert them in the forum. Instructions for how to would be great.

December 29, 2017
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Click on “Attachments” at the bottom. It is the 3rd from the left. On level with “Submit Reply”.

It will open a box under Attachments. You can drag an image or click “Add Files” at the bottom left.

 

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December 29, 2017
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Ok. It’s not very impressive, but I made some concept images of what a Stacy sex club management game would look like. Please note that this is not the prettiest thing in the world, but it get’s a basic idea through.

 

The point of the game would be to form the club, recruit members, (There are two branches, Girls, who are longer term members who you can recruit for money raising opportunities and recruiting boys, and boys, who represent the current popularity of the club), and run the club in secrecy. If your caught, it’s game over, so you need to find ways to prevent Sex club from being found. Either by taking the measures needed to avoid suspicion, find ways to let faculty look the other way, and worst case scenario, know how to screw your way out of a prison sentence.

 

And of course some RPG stat things. For example you start off with Stacy, so she might have some stats like Sex appeal, charisma, durability (energy system), and some fetishes that she is able to advertise for (any % of guys who are into big boobs, they will be more likely to join with her in, though her somewhat bitchy attitude might scare off some potential members compared to Maiko, who has both Big Boobs and Charisma covered). You can recruit some girls to broaden the appeal as more permanent members, but you have to either fulfill a side quest for them, or have a certain amount of people in the club before you can recruit them. The boy’s represent the popularity of your club, they will come if what you offer their fetish, and hold at least weekly meetings. Of course you can also raise some of these stats for the girls through training and club meetings.

 

Maybe for a story it’s Stacy trying to compete with Luma by trying to become a president of a club, unfortunately all the current clubs have their positions filled, leaving Stacy desperate. She learns about the old Sex club from some rumors, and traces them back to the source Jeni. It’s revealed that Jeni used to be president of the Sex Club, but after Gem. Co busting them, it has been abandoned. Stacy, seeing her opportunity convinces Jeni to get the club back up again, and Jeni decides to make Stacy president (seeing how if Stacy’s successful, she gets a good screw, and if it fails, Jeni’s doesn’t take the fall this time). She then makes a bet with Luma, if Sex club is more popular than the club Luma is in charge of by mid-term, then Luma must join Sex-club.

 

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December 31, 2017
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seems similar to the umichan shenanigans I was working on earlier. let me know what you think about it.
http://spiralvortexplay.com/sv…..enanigans/

you have certain appearance and clothing and that influences who would join. you can also be friends with a certain people or have in you club to get certain other people to join, etc.

there would just need to use a story and retain people you already have as people signed up for the club.

December 31, 2017
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Yeah, there is a lot of things in UMCS that would work well in this Sex club manager game. You could probably use a modified version of the UMCS engine for it, or maybe the UMCH engine and add some cross over some of the mechanics from UMCS to it. 

I remember playing a lot of UMCS when you released it, and it was a fun way to continue the boxing fun. But while I agree that the boxing was fun, as well as using outfits, I always felt that the friends and popularity stats to be kind of underdeveloped. There was potential there, but it felt like it wasn’t fully there.  

For Sex Club manager, there seems to be more reason to have a popularity and friends stats for the game. I’d think that if you took the engine for UMCS, it would work really well.

 

Though I don’t think Sex Club manager needs to be a online only game like UMCS is. But what do you think?

January 1, 2018
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Yeah it wouldn’t need to be online, but I might have a way to import people’s custom students via a code. and yeah I’d take out the boxing since the intent would be to accumulate club members.

I have 3 animations that can make use of the created characters. one is in umcs and umch cafe. another is in the boardwalk in umch, and the last on is not used in anything yet, it is hand job animations.

I could also possibly use a interview system I recently made a test of. I will make a post sometime today title something like “Maximizing character art” that has a working example of this. I think the interview system could be used here to recruit people also, or talk your way out of, or into things etc.

you mentioned Sex appeal, charisma, durability (energy system), and some fetishes. I assume energy is how much stuff you can do each day? fetishes seemed to be something the person is looking for their partner(or recruiter) to have? charisma seemed like personality which could effect initial impressions the girl gives off. not sure what sex appeal was. let me know if this stuff is right. i guess sex appeal could be if you need to bother matching thing like fetishes, or have to do interviews, or not. unlocking some of the harder student etc. based on the UMCS a lot of sex appeal can come from the outfits.

and in places outside the school some of those outfits would actually be ok to wear.

January 1, 2018
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So to clarify on what I mean on Stats

Durability- Basically an energy system for all characters. certain characters can only do a number of actions a day, so you need to choose who does what. Some characters have more energy than others, but maybe that can be increased at the gym or something

Charisma- yeah, it’s basically is the girl initially likable. I feel that this should be a more permanent stat, and but you can overcome it with other stats. So if a girl has low charisma, but is boosted out in stuff like sex appeal, then she’s more likely to draw more members

Sex Appeal-  I feel that sex Appeal is based on two parts, what fetishes does she fulfill, and how experienced in sex she is. For Example, Maiko is high in Charisma because she is a generally nice person, but she might be slightly lower in Sex Appeal than Stacey. The Reason being is that despite the fact both characters have the “Big Breasts” fetish, Stacey is more experienced in sex and more confident in her body, so her sex appeal is much higher. So comparing the two, they might both have the potential of bringing in the same amount of members initially, because Maiko makes up her lack of SXAP with CH, and Stacey makes up her lack of CH with SXAP.

Fetishes: Guys are into a wide variety of things, so I feel certain fetishes would bring in different guys. So if you had, for example, Maiko, Luma, Stacey, and Zytra, the most obvious fetish you have for all is “Big Breasts” which means you take in the max amount of students with that fetish. As well as some other miscellaneous ones too, Maiko “Innocent”, Luma “Athletic”, Zytra “Classy” and Stacey “Nympho”. However you also miss out on the group of people who’s fetish is “Small Breasts” like Amber, Deliah and Riley (I know it’s unlikely she joins, but she fit’s the example).

 

If you think that the custom characters would work better for the game idea, then go for it, I have full support behind it. I am still of the opinion that it be more interesting to play as Stacey, but it doesn’t matter too much to me.

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“If you think that the custom characters would work better for the game idea, then go for it, I have full support behind it. I am still of the opinion that it be more interesting to play as Stacey, but it doesn’t matter too much to me.”

Stacy, all the way!

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