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October 23, 2017
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sry needed to pause this atm while i finished UMCH then eventually forgot. need to wait a bit while the dust settles so i can move on to other stuff. still getting bug reports etc.

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@Vortex00

That's cool. Things have been hella busy for you lately with all the bug reports and fan questions so I know what you mean.

You can let me know when you wanna continue and I can re-post my last post to save you from going back. I have it saved.

October 30, 2017
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Thanks I read this and saw you changed to general descriptions. However the actually line by line dialogue is what I need here so would be to create various scenes an interaction with him accurately while fitting it in with the rest of a game.

You mentioned he wanted to fight so I could possibly have in as a cameo gym member in the Jeni game.

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@Vortex00

 

Ok. You got it. 

 

Here's my main scenes in mind for him:

 

(Aug and Riley)

Riley: I heard you're not a student anymore.

Aug: Yeah. I had enough of all that and got my ass out of there.

Riley: You only lasted 1 day. You've wasted a good opportunity.

Aug: I'm just happy to be here. Where I came from sucked.

Riley: Well do something with your life. Don't go down the wrong path again.

Aug: Wrong path again? How you know about that?

Riley: I have an important role at the school. So I need to have some knowledge of new students coming in.

Aug: 'Ight. No reason to worry. I've changed a lot.

Riley: That's good to hear.

 

(Aug to Maiko)

Aug: Ay, Mai. I see them agents giving you trouble. That sucks.

Mai: Yes. It's actually very scary.

Aug: It's all good though. I got some goods for you. This shit will help you in many ways.

Mai: Ok? What do you have?

Aug: Check it. Oh, and this costs money to make... Get. So I gotta charge you a little.

(His inventory opens or icons with the option to open it/leave etc.)

(When closing inventory or leaving.) Aug: Hold up. Here's my number. Hit me up whenever you need something. 

 

I was thinking of having the option to meet him, rather than him having a set location as a merchant. 

If you like the idea, I can write a list of ideas for what he sells.

 

When is the Jeni game set? If before CH, he wouldn't be there.

My idea is for August to move to Nanako a few days before the end of CH, and Maiko never met him until shortly after CH.

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Thanks Jeni game in indeed before CH.  Not sure why he needs to arrive after if he is never at the school anyway. UMCT the text based game happens shortly after CH. As does possibly the Rookie 2.

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He could appear before. It's really just an excuse for Maiko to not see him during CH. If he never appears, I would have to think of what he was doing and where he was during CH. Also, the scene where Riley confronts him might not work if he went to Nanako and the school long before that.

 

I could have him first appear in either CT or Rookie 2. Maybe CT shows him before he knows Maiko, Riley etc.

Maybe the Rookie 2 could have him join then leave the school. The idea I had of Gemco being wary of him as a student.

 

I hope I haven't made this character too complicated. Let me know if I have. 

November 4, 2017
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Is he a transfer student or did the begin at the same time as other students?

Maiko doesn't follow Riley around, nor does Riley follow Maiko anywhere. It's not farfetched to believe Maiko would not see a person who doesn't go to Nanako. Also she would not a see a person that only went to Nanako for one day considering Maiko didn't actually attend school until day 2.

Plus even if she did happen see every student in the school, or see him at the cafe as a patron, he wouldn't stand out to her because she doesn't know him. He would just seem like any other customer. It is assumed that way more people go to the school then the character you actually meet in the game. For example in UMCC I had random characters in the background.

The character is not complicated just trying to get the piece to fit because it is woven without much wiggle room.

You have to keep mind you have him in sort of romance situation with Riley and Pattie. I'm not sure Riley will work out. Riley is romancable in the Rookie. So I can't have a canon Riley be a girlfriend of anyone really since it is variable to the player if she becomes the rookie's gf or not.

She also spends time both at Nanako helping Alma with administrative work and being a student, and at GemCo agent training, missions and classes. I also remembered that UMCT and Rookie 2 won't work for Riley because at the end of UMCH Riley is not even on the planet. She leaves with Luma and Lynn to peruse Jeo. That is when ARIA happens. In the Rookie 2. the rookie is placed in the company of a different section of girls.

However, I think Riley Luma and Lynn will get back somewhere during the middle of Rookie 2 possibly to be conflict with a new love interest the Rookie may or may not have based on the players decisions. So he can come into play there possibly to be competition for the Rookie who may be romancing Riley or trying to win her back. But a possible issue there he will be viewed as a bad guy possibly for players trying to get Riley. For those not, he might be seen as a happy ending for Riley also.

So if we move to Pattie. When she is not following Maiko 24/7 she is in the Cafe casually having sex with patrons including kyle, which sometimes happens in the photo club based on players decisions. She is in every school club except music. She hangs out at the boardwalk in her free time. And she is also seen many times with Amber in various places.

You you might try a few dialogues with him, Pattie and Amber. So I can see what have in mind for that dynamic. Him talkign to amber especially or any shy type character.

let me know your thoughts on this. Like I said it can work. just have to make sure he is well thought out so it can work without any conflicts later. Yeah Riley and/or Pattie makes it more tricky but it is still workable.

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November 4, 2017
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Transfer. I think. One of the reasons he leaves school is because he felt out of place.  

 

That's a very good point about Maiko not noticing him. I take back what I said about him only working if he goes to Nanako after UMCH.

So you can put him in the Jeni game if you'd like.

 

For Riley, I don't plan on having a romance with. A slight build up through his interactions with her but nothing serious is planned to happen. If the opportunity for something to happen came then sure but for now, it's just August showing his interest and nothing more. 

And with Pattie, I think that'll depend on the game. Because I have a lot of other ideas for him, I don't think I'll have him interact with her much or have many (if any) scenes in the cafe now.

 

The idea for the Rookie could work. It could be a chance to explain a little of the history between August and Riley. Maybe if Riley catches the Rookie having sex with someone else, or the player doesn't romance her, she starts a relationship August.

 

I think for now, I won't have him interact with many characters. Riley when he can. Possibly Jeni, he pays her to be his personal trainer.

He would of likely interacted with Dizzy, which inspired the superhero thing he does at night. 

Maybe during CH, he was setting that up. He was collecting things for his personal lab to make non-lethal weapons. Which could be why he has barely interacted with anyone else in Nanako.

 

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December 21, 2017
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@Vortex00

 

I was in a fashion mood so I designed a casual outfit and hero costume for August. I also did his hair and eyes.

 

I can show you them now or if you're busy or prefer to look at appearance later, I can hold onto them.

December 25, 2017
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sure let's see it. you should be able to upload it here with the attachments button. if not let me know.

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Outfit-reg.pngImage EnlargerOutfit-hero.pngImage EnlargerFace-and-Hair.pngImage EnlargerHere is what I have in mind. I used images of different clothing and put them together to show how his outfits could be.

 

Image 1 = Casual/Default. 

If camo is difficult or too long to do, it could be a plain blue or more simple pattern. 

Shorts can be a light grey. They don't need a reflective/bright effect.

Red legs are pants, layered under the shorts. Not part of the shorts or long socks. They might not be visible on screen though, because of where characters cut off.

 

Image 2 = Hero.

Shoes are more sporty, for running, slightly different from causal outfit shoes. Though neither may be visible to player, I just wanted to point this difference out.

Gloves are meant to be tactical gloves. Military type. They got heavily pixelated when editing.

I was thinking of adding some pads like elbows or knees but I'm not sure. What do you think?

 

Image 3 = Face.

I picked this color because as far as I know, no character has this shade of green. I also wanted some spikes around the back.

Eyes were between gold (what it is now) and light blue. I only shown gold but they can be light blue if you prefer. 

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December 27, 2017
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Clothes looks good, I don't think I understand enough about the hero clothes to suggest knee-pads or not.

The hair is a bit odd to see what you were trying to go for. maybe you can find a reference pic?

once you have that i can try to give it a sketch, you can give edits, then ttrop can take it from there.

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hair-ref-1.pngImage Enlargerhair-ref-2.pngImage Enlargerhair-3.pngImage EnlargerThe hair style was inspired by Mikan Yuuki (To Love Ru). Picture 1 and 2 show how I intended the hair to be, minus the hair that goes down past shoulder level. And he wouldn't have the beads hair tie.

 

Picture 3 of Butters (South Park) may also help. But it only shows how the top of August's hair is.

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so is there hair on the sides?

December 31, 2017
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Yeah. It's pretty much the same as picture 1 and 2. Anything above shoulder level is there. 

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Alright. how about the eyes and facial structure example?

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How about this?

Picture 1 shows his face, eyes and nose structure. Ignore the hair and eye brows.

The hair in picture 2 is just to show how his hair will cover his forehead. pb-struct.pngImage Enlarger pb-struct2.pngImage Enlarger

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@Vortex00

Is there anything I can do for my character at the moment? Dialogue, plot ideas, more images, etc?

If not, I don't mind. I just have a lot of free time so decided to ask.

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it should be ok for now. I just need to sketch

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Ok. Sounds good. 🙂

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