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Balancing the amount of hentai with the rest of the game
February 15, 2016
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recently I received feedback mention that I don't have enough hentai in ARIA.
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I would imagine most people interested in my stuff are looking for some actual gameplay in the games I make that is fairly different from the typical RPG maker, or platform game.

based on the comment linked above, that person reached a point where the was too much "game" and not enough hentai.

A lot of hentai in a game is almost always a good thing. There can't be too much hentai in a game. But it seems like there can be too little, and that amount can vary from person to person.

so was wondering when you  decide to play a hentai "game", how much "game" are you looking for versus something just to fap to?

if it depends, what does it depend on and why ?

February 16, 2016
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The game part is quite important, I'd say. If you just want to fap without doing anything there are better ways to get your fix than playing a game. 

 

That said, I can see where they're coming from a bit. For me the game is important for setting up context and setting. The right context can make even a "meh" animation/image amazing. So the #1 aspect of a game for me is how it sets up the hentai. So if a game has tons of gameplay that never leads to any hentai, then it can kinda feel like a waste of time. Unless the game is really (really) fun on its own, I don't have much interest in the actual gameplay other than how it leads to hentai.

If I remember correctly, there are a few zones in Aria where you never unlock any scenes. These would definitely feel like a waste of time to me. I don't think it was ever really a big deal though, as Aria's a pretty short and easy game. This is mainly an issue if the game is long and tedious. 

February 16, 2016
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For me the hentai is a option that is not needed as much. But you do have Aria that would show why Jeo does it. I think a reputation of a image of a character needs to be tried. I don't think using Maiko might not work for that as much. Maybe Nari building a reputation or she have to teach other girls how to dance on the strip club. But at the same time solve another problem? Just throwing stuff don't mean nothing by it. The not do hentai to do hentai easier money but illegal. Reputation of what customers would think. Ho or entertainer? Something like that. Other than that I have no idea what you can do to make the hentai seem important enough or not.

February 17, 2016
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To me, it needs to be balanced, and you could almost make a formula for this. For every x minutes of game play you'd need y hentai scenes. I think that UMCC is a top culprit for what I'm saying. It takes a long time to complete, and there isn't really any sex in it, unless you count the repetitive task of showering. ARIA does a good job with this, especially since you need to have sex to keep Jeo a playable option, and to boost his stats up the ass. And if your characters have enough development, then the scenes can be as shitty as you want, and people will still like them. 

February 19, 2016
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calibuskingofswords said
If I remember correctly, there are a few zones in Aria where you never unlock any scenes. These would definitely feel like a waste of time to me....This is mainly an issue if the game is long and tedious. 

Yeah for me I'm mostly concerned about making a game primarily. So if there is no hentai it is not a huge deal for me. But yes when there is hentai I want to make sure people understand what is going on by the time they get to it.

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For me the hentai is a option that is not needed as much....Maybe Nari building a reputation or she have to teach other girls how to dance on the strip club.

Yeah I need to make the stuff from that DoE game with Nari and Ginger and make smaller game from that. Also lot the club Gekki girls were I in that game, Nari, Ginger and Charity. Would be fun to touch on that story a bit.

Storm said
To me, it needs to be balanced... I think that UMCC is a top culprit for what I'm saying. It takes a long time to complete, and there isn't really any sex in it, 

I'd argue UMCC has more sex situations than ARIA. It is just in UMCC it is completely optional. You'll never see them unless you actively want to see/find them. Where in ARIA, you need them if you play as Jeo and you might bump into some sex scenes along the way from playing the game normally. With UMCC none of the primary objectives require you to have sex

February 20, 2016
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Interesting posts. I could see what that commenter was getting at but I think they said what they did because they didn't realise how much the combat could be skipped or made easier. If you grind through the game then yes, it can seem unbalanced. But that isn't really the way it's meant to be played, I'm guessing. 

I would agree that above all the hentai should have proper context and build-up. That's what makes it super. 

February 20, 2016
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JD said
I would agree that above all the hentai should have proper context and build-up. That's what makes it super. 

yes it fundamental for OC characters especially.

I think some people want or can only grasp the derpy, "you completed the next challenge, now here is your reward" type game. it's not how I make games. Just because there is not hentai after every accomplishment certainly doesn't mean there it not much in the entire game itself.

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