becoming the ultimate slut | Thoughts and Analysis | Forum

Avatar

Please consider registering
guest

sp_LogInOut Log In sp_Registration Register

Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search

— Forum Scope —




— Match —





— Forum Options —





Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters

sp_Feed Topic RSS sp_TopicIcon
becoming the ultimate slut
April 21, 2016
1:47 pm
Avatar
Vortex00
Admin
Level 10
Forum Posts: 223
Member Since:
November 19, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I had been meaning to make this post for a while now, and my issue stems back to UMCC.

Out of the suggestions I get for the UMCH, many seem to center around being able to turn Maiko into this mega slut that walks around naked dripping in cum and wears slutty clothing all the time. eventually added something like this into UMCC later on but in retrospect it really was something I should have stuck to my guns on.

I was just where this even comes from. other games? I would imagine if from a game, in those games the scope of the story (if it seriously even has one) is limited to that game and doesn't span over multiple games, where if the protagonist suddenly become some useful only for sex, knocked up, cum guzzling slut would not break anything. Or maybe that is the focus on the game. If that is is in any game, it becomes the focus on the game by default, and breaks any other objective.

Has this been in hentai anime even? I don't want much hentai series but in all the school related hentai settings I haven't seen where girls willing walk around naked dripping in cum publicly through a school and not care because they are just that slutty. I would sooner see student characters fucking in the hallway in public then walking around totally naked. Even the most perverted girls in school setting hentai usually fuck in private or think they are alone at least.

So if this is something you like,  or even not, where does the idea stem from? because it is not common? or because you saw it somewhere else and liked it? or something else. thanks.

April 21, 2016
2:53 pm
Avatar
graav
Lv. 2
Members
Level 0
Forum Posts: 9
Member Since:
March 7, 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Many erotic games, use this type of corruption / progression for their plots and it is very pronounced if the main character is female;
It's like a tree of skills of an RPG game, where the exp is sex and the skills are the fetish, from the softer to the most pushed.

However, many of these games dont have a story that continues in other game.

April 21, 2016
3:25 pm
Avatar
thevoiceis
Lv. 1
Members
Level 0
Forum Posts: 2
Member Since:
January 11, 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

In response to the topic and to add on to graav, this is a condition I have scene in other J-Hrpgs, SakiQue comes to mind especially. I tend to like this direction in hentai with playable female characters. Maybe it's because it is highly unrealistic that it becomes entertaining for a while. Of course I also tend to have a chaste play through if the game rewards that behavior in the ending. It wouldn't really work well in games with multiple installments because there would be no room for the character to grow. But I could see Maiko carry a "slut" reputation from game to game, especially amongst generic npcs. 

April 21, 2016
3:48 pm
Avatar
JD
Moderator
Members


Moderators
Level 0
Forum Posts: 7
Member Since:
June 11, 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Personally I think the idea is gross and I don't know where it comes from. :/

April 21, 2016
4:11 pm
Avatar
JohnSmith
Guest
Guests

Last time I saw it was when I played Akabur and Swegabe's games. But before, I faced it almost in every hentai JRPG.

Of course, it's absolutely unrealistic. I think, even every real elite harlot would like to look respectable - and being covered in cum doesn't look respectable at all. Showing in public with such appearance is more like a method of a total humiliation. It may be good seeing this in some adult stuff, but it would look much weird and disgusting in the real world.

I can even say that games, which using this and other similar features, - they may be very good, but they can't be taken seriously.

April 21, 2016
8:04 pm
Avatar
Wilsonthegreen
Lv. 3
Members
Level 0
Forum Posts: 51
Member Since:
December 28, 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I might be able to answer this. (Maybe?)

 

I always liked to take options that might be considered the bad choice in most games. Playing evil characters in rpgs and stuff like that.

 

With Maiko tho, that translates more to rule breaking.

So instead of being a good person and working for money, I'd rather have have sex to get it. It's more efficient and it's sexy to see a good girl doing bad stuff.

The slut thing I think is just an expansion of that idea of getting Maiko to do bad stuff.

It's kinda similar to the 'risk' associated with the pregnancy mechanic, people don't actually want to fail from doing normal game stuff riskily, but they like that the option is there.

 

As for story logic you could have this stuff in and just say it isn't cannon. I know bioware did that with kotor 1 and 2, where it's cannon that the hero is a good guy but you can still play an evil bastard that kills half your team and rules the galaxy.

April 21, 2016
8:24 pm
Avatar
Nereid8
Lv. 1
Members
Level 0
Forum Posts: 2
Member Since:
December 28, 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

This setting is more predominant in jrpgs with a corruption system as thevoiceis stated, in most instances it usually affect the trigger of certain events or may unravel a different path in story.

While personally i kinda like the scenario in certain games i dont think it fits this game mainly because:

A) UMCC dont have a corruption system

B) While id like the possibility of more revealing even sluttier costumes there is a complete lore and world building in this game making scenarios like walking around naked/covered in cum would most likely break immersion

Still it could be as unticop said before: non-canon options or stretching a bit maybe unlock it as sandbox after the main story is complete?

April 21, 2016
8:45 pm
Avatar
Selvira
Lv. 2
Members
Level 0
Forum Posts: 5
Member Since:
July 26, 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I have no idea where this "mega slut" idea stems from. I'm not sure that there are a lot of games where you can do that without being punished for it (let alone ones in which you actually play as a girl so you can actually become such a slut). But for the most part, people play erotic games in such a way as to access as much of their content as possible. If you play a Lesson of Passion game one way and get a certain ending, you're likely to replay the game to see what you have to do to get other endings. If becoming a "mega slut" just so happens to be the only way to experience as much of the game as possible, then players are more likely to play as a "mega slut."

 

I was going to write more on the subject, but I got some very upsetting news tonight. I might give more input if prompted.

April 21, 2016
10:51 pm
Avatar
UnusualAlias
Lv. 2
Members
Level 0
Forum Posts: 3
Member Since:
February 6, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Yeah, this is one of my big ticket turn-ons. I can't speak for other people on this one, I ended up with this one through a fairly convoluted process.

Let's start with where it comes from. You probably aren't phenomenally interested in hearing about my adolesence, so I'll keep it brief. There's no one work I can point to that did this to me, rather it's a product of the way I played a lot of porn flash games back in the day. It's this situation where the way I played most of those games when I was trying to get off, in key cases, left the character stripped and splattered. And then as I played more and more games like this it became something I looked out for specifically. It helps that it isn't an easy itch to scratch in full. Most porn games get close in places. Almost none get to where I want. Like another one of my big turn-ons, part of it is simply not being able to see as much of it as I'd like, and another part is it feels like the "mountaintop", things like facials  are a lower down the same "mountain".

There's a couple of key components to it to. It's not as simple as "naked and splattered with cum in public" though that's close. I guess I'd narrow it down to two key variants, shameful and shameless. Shameless is what you're asking about so we'll start there. And simply put it's a measure of a game world's freedom and interactivity. It was a fairly simple litmus test for how much I was going to enjoy something back in the day. It's almost like a series of questions. 1) Can you take your clothes off? 2) How much sex is available? 3) Are there any lingering effects or consequences? 4) Does the world react to any of this? And somewhere along the way the middle meeting point of all these questions, the centre of the Venn-diagram, became the biggest turn on of them all. It's a game only thing. Sort of. I can't find irl videos that scratch this particular itch, and for good reason. Stories don't capture the interactive nature of the fantasy, and pictures are similarly few and far between.

This is the magic point you hit in UMCC. Now the interesting part of all this is once I've established it can be done, it quickly loses its shine. Knowing it's there doesn't, it actually gives me a pleasant, long-lasting buzz about a game to know that I can go back to that point. In the long run I don't think I bothered more than a couple of times in UMCC. Because a part of me remembers that it was never about the cum-splattered nudity in the first place, it was just a way of testing where the game's limits were.

The shameful variant is of the two is a more concrete fantasy. It has components too, but these are definite and are more simple than yes/no. The components  are 1. Naked 2. Cum everywhere 3. Sexual humiliation 4 Submission 5. Widespread exposure of the above. Again, it's the "mountain top". The key implication of all the cum in this one though, is usually sex with a lot of men mostly at once. This might be rape, it might not be, doesn't matter too much, though a better story is always better for my enjoyment.  The widespread exposure has a bunch of possible mediums, the obvious one being a walk of shame. Pictures/video getting out also work to an extent.

Finally a word on sluttiness. Which is to say it's actually a separate issue.  In the shameful case there is some amount of "sluttiness" involved in engaging in group sex, but it can also be forced, in which case I don't really consider it slutty at all. It doesn't have much bearing on the shameful variant. The shameless variant, I've said is a game thing, I guess there is one corollary, like you talked about a lot of games have corruption/purity/sluttiness/lewdness whatever stats that serve to gate content, in some cases, in this case, yes there is a sluttiness component, but only because it's mechanically forced. In cases where it isn't, it's implied through action I guess, but the characters don't have any real character in a lot of these games, just actions they can do.

I don't know how much sense this will make to you, but I hope it provides a little of the insight you're looking for.

April 22, 2016
6:36 am
Avatar
vasch the stampede
Lv. 1
Members
Level 0
Forum Posts: 2
Member Since:
January 3, 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

The important thing is be able to finish the game in any state.

For example UMCC is possible to finish the game without having sex or being the ultimate slut.

April 22, 2016
1:10 pm
Avatar
Storm
Lv. 2
Members
Level 0
Forum Posts: 8
Member Since:
September 10, 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

For me at least, the whole megaslut component could be more of a secret ending. Maybe each time Maiko has sex she gains some sort of reputation and when it caps out, you get your scenario you listed; walking around naked, fucking every guy who comes within view of her. I like how UMCC had options with how your character played out, but as long as you were still doing the story, your version of Maiko was how the plot wanted it to be. If you had less of a plotline and instead had your cutscenes once certain points had been reached, you could have it reputation based where every couple days had a storyline cutscene that had to fit on a certain path. Maybe something where going to class every day and passing all your tests (legitimately) would give you the good girl story, while skipping class and fucking the teachers to get good grades would put you on the "megaslut" path. 

April 22, 2016
9:27 pm
Avatar
Vortex00
Admin
Level 10
Forum Posts: 223
Member Since:
November 19, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

graav said
Many erotic games, use this type of corruption / progression for their plots and it is very pronounced if the main character is female;
It's like a tree of skills of an RPG game, where the exp is sex and the skills are the fetish, from the softer to the most pushed.

However, many of these games dont have a story that continues in other game.

yeah it is what I was thinking. People just see a female lead and associate these other things with it.

thevoiceis said
In response to the topic and to add on to graav, this is a condition I have scene in other J-Hrpgs, SakiQue comes to mind especially. I tend to like this direction in hentai with playable female characters. Maybe it's because it is highly unrealistic that it becomes entertaining for a while. Of course I also tend to have a chaste play through if the game rewards that behavior in the ending. It wouldn't really work well in games with multiple installments because there would be no room for the character to grow. But I could see Maiko carry a "slut" reputation from game to game, especially amongst generic npcs. 

it's just bit too unrealistic even for umch imo. The story won't always take place in a school setting. Maiko popping pussy to defeat everyone just makes everything about any semblance of a story into a joke.

JD said
Personally I think the idea is gross and I don't know where it comes from. :/

if saw a chick irl walking down the street naked totally drenched in cum. I'd keep my distance yes. heh.

Neferis said
Last time I saw it was when I played Akabur and Swegabe's games. But before, I faced it almost in every hentai JRPG.

Of course, it's absolutely unrealistic. I think, even every real elite harlot would like to look respectable - and being covered in cum doesn't look respectable at all. Showing in public with such appearance is more like a method of a total humiliation. It may be good seeing this in some adult stuff, but it would look much weird and disgusting in the real world.

I can even say that games, which using this and other similar features, - they may be very good, but they can't be taken seriously.

Yeah I guess I just haven't played many HJRPGs. The story at times will get pretty serious and yeah that totally breaks anything that is not built around it.

unticop said
I might be able to answer this. (Maybe?)

 

I always liked to take options that might be considered the bad choice in most games. Playing evil characters in rpgs and stuff like that.

 

With Maiko tho, that translates more to rule breaking.

So instead of being a good person and working for money, I'd rather have have sex to get it. It's more efficient and it's sexy to see a good girl doing bad stuff.

The slut thing I think is just an expansion of that idea of getting Maiko to do bad stuff.

It's kinda similar to the 'risk' associated with the pregnancy mechanic, people don't actually want to fail from doing normal game stuff riskily, but they like that the option is there.

 

As for story logic you could have this stuff in and just say it isn't cannon. I know bioware did that with kotor 1 and 2, where it's cannon that the hero is a good guy but you can still play an evil bastard that kills half your team and rules the galaxy.

consider in kotor 1 and 2 the characters you play as and the settings are very different. so much so that it doesn't matter that you did in 1. Also the endings are designed to have multiple endings. in my story there is only 1 outcome. So in the process of getting there Maiko can't go too far into left field.

Nereid8 said
This setting is more predominant in jrpgs with a corruption system as thevoiceis stated, in most instances it usually affect the trigger of certain events or may unravel a different path in story.

While personally i kinda like the scenario in certain games i dont think it fits this game mainly because:

A) UMCC dont have a corruption system

B) While id like the possibility of more revealing even sluttier costumes there is a complete lore and world building in this game making scenarios like walking around naked/covered in cum would most likely break immersion

Still it could be as unticop said before: non-canon options or stretching a bit maybe unlock it as sandbox after the main story is complete?

however people tend to focus on that stuff so much. I have learned this from adding it to umcc. There are other way to give Maiko an excuse to be sluttier the fit better into the game without a corruption system or going that far off into the weeds. If I had something the focuses on making some slutty thoguh I'd rater have it in a different games. There are some ideas I have that I can get to later.

April 22, 2016
10:14 pm
Avatar
Vortex00
Admin
Level 10
Forum Posts: 223
Member Since:
November 19, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Selvira said
I have no idea where this "mega slut" idea stems from. I'm not sure that there are a lot of games where you can do that without being punished for it (let alone ones in which you actually play as a girl so you can actually become such a slut). But for the most part, people play erotic games in such a way as to access as much of their content as possible. If you play a Lesson of Passion game one way and get a certain ending, you're likely to replay the game to see what you have to do to get other endings. If becoming a "mega slut" just so happens to be the only way to experience as much of the game as possible, then players are more likely to play as a "mega slut."

 

I was going to write more on the subject, but I got some very upsetting news tonight. I might give more input if prompted.

Yeah for this game I want to make it not quite takes as long to beat as umcc, but have a lot more branching paths. So a person would see them over multiple playthroughs. Sorry about upsetting news.

UnusualAlias said
Yeah, this is one of my big ticket turn-ons. I can't speak for other people on this one, I ended up with this one through a fairly convoluted process.

Let's start with where it comes from. You probably aren't phenomenally interested in hearing about my adolesence, so I'll keep it brief. There's no one work I can point to that did this to me, rather it's a product of the way I played a lot of porn flash games back in the day. It's this situation where the way I played most of those games when I was trying to get off, in key cases, left the character stripped and splattered. And then as I played more and more games like this it became something I looked out for specifically. It helps that it isn't an easy itch to scratch in full. Most porn games get close in places. Almost none get to where I want. Like another one of my big turn-ons, part of it is simply not being able to see as much of it as I'd like, and another part is it feels like the "mountaintop", things like facials  are a lower down the same "mountain".

There's a couple of key components to it to. It's not as simple as "naked and splattered with cum in public" though that's close. I guess I'd narrow it down to two key variants, shameful and shameless. Shameless is what you're asking about so we'll start there. And simply put it's a measure of a game world's freedom and interactivity. It was a fairly simple litmus test for how much I was going to enjoy something back in the day. It's almost like a series of questions. 1) Can you take your clothes off? 2) How much sex is available? 3) Are there any lingering effects or consequences? 4) Does the world react to any of this? And somewhere along the way the middle meeting point of all these questions, the centre of the Venn-diagram, became the biggest turn on of them all. It's a game only thing. Sort of. I can't find irl videos that scratch this particular itch, and for good reason. Stories don't capture the interactive nature of the fantasy, and pictures are similarly few and far between.

This is the magic point you hit in UMCC. Now the interesting part of all this is once I've established it can be done, it quickly loses its shine. Knowing it's there doesn't, it actually gives me a pleasant, long-lasting buzz about a game to know that I can go back to that point. In the long run I don't think I bothered more than a couple of times in UMCC. Because a part of me remembers that it was never about the cum-splattered nudity in the first place, it was just a way of testing where the game's limits were.

The shameful variant is of the two is a more concrete fantasy. It has components too, but these are definite and are more simple than yes/no. The components  are 1. Naked 2. Cum everywhere 3. Sexual humiliation 4 Submission 5. Widespread exposure of the above. Again, it's the "mountain top". The key implication of all the cum in this one though, is usually sex with a lot of men mostly at once. This might be rape, it might not be, doesn't matter too much, though a better story is always better for my enjoyment.  The widespread exposure has a bunch of possible mediums, the obvious one being a walk of shame. Pictures/video getting out also work to an extent.

Finally a word on sluttiness. Which is to say it's actually a separate issue.  In the shameful case there is some amount of "sluttiness" involved in engaging in group sex, but it can also be forced, in which case I don't really consider it slutty at all. It doesn't have much bearing on the shameful variant. The shameless variant, I've said is a game thing, I guess there is one corollary, like you talked about a lot of games have corruption/purity/sluttiness/lewdness whatever stats that serve to gate content, in some cases, in this case, yes there is a sluttiness component, but only because it's mechanically forced. In cases where it isn't, it's implied through action I guess, but the characters don't have any real character in a lot of these games, just actions they can do.

I don't know how much sense this will make to you, but I hope it provides a little of the insight you're looking for.

so basically time stop on the money shot and wanted to preserve the moment. Definitely not worth if it looses it's appeal so quickly lol. but it will especially if the game it not centered around it.

vasch the stampede said
The important thing is be able to finish the game in any state.

For example UMCC is possible to finish the game without having sex or being the ultimate slut.

yes however walking around naked takes even a slutty maiko to another level heh. so much so that imo it supersedes anything else in the game.

Storm said
For me at least, the whole megaslut component could be more of a secret ending. Maybe each time Maiko has sex she gains some sort of reputation and when it caps out, you get your scenario you listed; walking around naked, fucking every guy who comes within view of her. I like how UMCC had options with how your character played out, but as long as you were still doing the story, your version of Maiko was how the plot wanted it to be. If you had less of a plotline and instead had your cutscenes once certain points had been reached, you could have it reputation based where every couple days had a storyline cutscene that had to fit on a certain path. Maybe something where going to class every day and passing all your tests (legitimately) would give you the good girl story, while skipping class and fucking the teachers to get good grades would put you on the "megaslut" path. 

idk love the story aspect of it heh. i don't mid people taking a slutty path. just walking around naked seem a bit too far in the weeds unless to tailor make the game for that. you can't just do it. people have to react to it. so you have to design the game around that mechanic. I had other games ideas where it can work better.

April 22, 2016
10:55 pm
Avatar
UnusualAlias
Lv. 2
Members
Level 0
Forum Posts: 3
Member Since:
February 6, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I'd call it more time stop on the afterglow. Yeah, the first variant anyway doesn't really fit with what you're doing with UMCH. I'm sure you could make a great game around that kind of thing if you wanted to. A guy can dream, right?

I feel there is room for the second variation I talked about, or at least a toned down version, I mean you've got a whole bunch of facials and the like going on, all it'd take to set me off would be Kyle snapping a picture after the fact or something, more impact if it was after one of his own scenes. And maybe a quick story scene of him showing it to someone, though David and Joiry seem more like the types to do that kind of thing.

Forum Timezone: America/Chicago

Most Users Ever Online: 58

Currently Online:
4 Guest(s)

Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)

Top Posters:

DigitalTK: 80

Wilsonthegreen: 51

Vld: 32

Paul Grandidge: 26

Luna: 20

Isaiah: 12

graav: 9

Storm: 8

Eric: 8

Oecus: 7

Member Stats:

Guest Posters: 5

Members: 21431

Moderators: 5

Admins: 1

Forum Stats:

Groups: 1

Forums: 5

Topics: 64

Posts: 704

Newest Members:

Xov, drmummy, MyName, aaaa4, ggman1039, hotaru, Chua Jin Hong, Darkmoon, eol, Catto

Moderators: justjoe2k: 22, jccq89: 6, Eriot: 11, JD: 7, Brigma: 10

Administrators: Vortex00: 223

UA-39917806-1
Skip to toolbar