a few of you guys have mentioned interest in writing a few scenes to add into ARIA. I think it is cool to have as much things to do as possible in the game.
91 thoughts on “quest ideas and writing scenes for ARIA stuff (spoilers)”
My brain is fried from thinking so much, hopefully others can come up with some side quest. And guys keep it on there character. You can tell there persona by the bio of the game. If anything cross my mind I’ll write something, as of now nothing. Because the main points have started to patch itself.
I haven’t played all of UMCC so I could especially use help on making sure my ideas don’t clash with those. Hope you can give some feedback or ideas. I’m really looking forward to Vortex adding side quests and I hope people can get lots of good suggestions going. 🙂
Hmmmm, well for Phia something just snapped together in my head.
Maybe at a certain point Phia get’s a distress call from someone important to her and you can get the choice to help her out or not.
“Jeo hey I know were busy but I need your help over on this planet! (Give an actual name, I’m no good at naming stuff)”
“Phia we’re really busy-”
“Yeah I know but this is important! Someone important might die!”
“Yes… but we have-”
“Look if you don’t help I’m not fucking you and neither is anyone else on this ship, weird disease or no!”
“Phia….”
“Don’t you think I can’t do it! I’m the only one that’s into this shit, I can convince the others if I try!’
“…..”
Choice is presented, saying no might decrease everyone’s obey and slow it from filling back up. If yes then continue on.
Phia then explains that the person in trouble is the first guy she had sex with, whose this sex guru/master guy that showed her the joys of fucking and taught her all her sex skills.
You go over to the planet and start searching, eventually finding him in a bar with some ladies.
He explains that the distress signal was a lie and he was just worried about Phia following Jeo, (I figure Jeo has a reputation for being a cold bastard and he wouldn’t want Phia getting hurt or anything.)
Phia would start arguing with him, maybe something like this?
P “Master, Jeo’s fine. He’s smart, fights hard, good sized dick-”
Ma “Wait a minute you fucked this guy?!”
P “Well… yeah why not?”
Ma “Look at him, his circles are completely closed off. He can barely get himself off let alone a woman.”
P “His circles are closed but he can make up for it with his physical skills alone…”
Ma “You’ve been away too long Phia… you’ve forgotten what a good fuck is havent you?…”
J “Look I don’t give a shit about your circles or whatever, but don’t go-”
Ma “Exactly! Without care for your or your partners circles there’s no way you could satisfy anyone but yourself.”
J “I can get off any woman just fine….”
Ma “Show me….”
J “What?”
Ma “I’ll believe you if you can prove it, hell I’ll even show you something special if you do well enough.”
J “Right here?”
Ma “You scared?”
J “Fuck no…. Phia come over here…”
P “Mmmm sure thing stud…”
Ma “I’m setting the timer here, you have two minutes. In order to get her off in that time, you’ll need to open up your circles and read exactly what she wants…”
J “Two minutes? Easy…”
(Not sure exactly what would happen here, maybe a mini game or sorts? I figured it might be kind of like a scene viewer with all of Phia’s scenes but you would need to follow minor clues to pick the right order to get her off in time. Maybe like Phia’s whispering in the speakers that gradually gets louder the closer you get to the end)
If success then,
J “There you ready to shut up now?”
Ma “I suppose I am, I didn’t expect you to actually open up like that.”
J “Opening up had nothing to do with it, it’s just common sense.”
Ma “Sure kid… but let me sharpen that “common sense” of yours a bit…”
(Insert time lapse here)
Ma “There, by following those instructions you’ll have a much easier time reading women and what they need…”
J “Not bad old man…. I guess coming here wasn’t a complete waste of time… thanks I guess.”
Ma “I didn’t tell you for YOU! You’re just as much a bastard as I’ve heard, so I figured with this at least the women stuck with you could have a little fun.”
J “Whatever…. let’s get out of here Phia
P “MmmmmMmmmm yes sir….”
The rewards for this could be a bunch of stuff, here’s a few I thought up
1. Sex doesn’t max out tiredness anymore
2. Sex raises obey and respect? for all girls, (More in the case of Phia)
3. More scenes with girls, (Possibly unlock future groupsex scenes or other stuff)
4. Girls less likely to refuse sex, even if obey/respect is low.
5. Able to chose sex animations (Even stuff not normally used in normal animation like punishment)
6. Phia won’t disobey Jeo anymore
It could be any number of these or a mix of them. This is probably a really long post, so I’ll just cut it off here. Hope something here is usable.
Interesting. 🙂
Personally, I wouldn’t like competition with Jeo. I figure he’s the ‘avatar’ for the player and for empowerment fantasy. Those chicks are mine, dammit! Umm… *cough*
My own idea for Phia’s sidequest is that she hears from an old friend/enemy (or ‘frenemy’ as the cool kids say). Phia hates her because she stole her boyfriend by being hot and sexy, and that was the origin of Phia being a slut (maybe). She wanted to be like her firend who betrayed her.
Anyway, good stuff! I’ll be posting some of my ideas shortly, so feel free to give feedback and suggest additions, changes! The more ideas for Vortex the better, I reckon! 😀
At a certain point in the story Bri’s powers stop working completely. (No flashes, flares or anything) She goes to tell the rest of the crew what happened and everybody has a different suggestion for what to do.
Phia- You lost your power?
Bri- Un-hum
P- Like all of them?
Bri- *nods*
P- Hmmmm getting back powers…. have you tried eating sugar upside down? Or was that drinking water….
Arielle- It’s not like the hiccups Phia, this is serious!
P- Hey I’m just trained to kill these types, I’ve never had to like, get their powers back.
A- You’re probably just tired and need some rest bri…
TT- It may be more serious than that. I have some medicine from used by Kha’lel users to stabilize their energies. They may help out.
Bri- I can try more meditation techniques too, they used to work out for problems like this in training…
P- Or… you could fuck some more!
A- Phia…
P- What? Maybe she’s too tense and needs to unwind a bit…
TT- It’s your call Jeo, what do you think?
Here you get the choice of who’s advice to take. The only real change between the choices I can think of is that the person you agree with gets extra respect/obey and if you decide to fuck Bri there’d be hentai and Arielle would probably disapprove.
Fucking Bri dialogue
Ari- …..I can’t believe you Jeo
Jeo- What? She’s tense and I wanted to get off anyway.
A- She’s probably sick you shouldn’t be forcing her like this!
J- You’re the only one upset here.
Bri- *Moaning*
T- Theoretically it COULD work… I still want to run tests on her afterward to see if I can find anything else.
P- Fuck yeah Jeo! Dump that load into her!
A- *Sigh*
Time lapse later, where you find out none of the options could have worked but TT found something while examining Bri
TT- I figured out the problem, it turns out Phia was right…. sort of.
A- What?!
P-Ha!
J- So what? I need to fuck her more?
T- Not exactly… see her stress rate is much higher than a normal woman’s at her age.
P- So? We’re stressed too and we’re still ok.
T- We’re trained to handle the pressures of combat, Bri not so much and besides Bri’s power relies much more on mental stability than us. So it’s natural that her powers would short out like this.
J- And the solution is?
T- She needs to get away from combat for a while… just being in this ship is a constant reminder of the danger she’s in. A mini vacation should get her right up to speed.
J- ….. Alright then let’s drop her off somewhere and pick her up later when she’s better.
T- I wouldn’t suggest that!
J- …Why not?
T- Bri’s been seen with us and in case you’ve forgotten we’re a bit wanted right now. Without her power’s she’d be a sitting duck, she needs an escort to protect her.
J- Alright then who’s going?
T- I need to stay here and work on some vital repairs.
P- Well I’d go, but I’d just end up fucking her and you’d probably reprimand me or something about that.
A- I’m sorry Bri, I’d love to go but the main gun really needs my attention…
*Everyone looks at Jeo*
J- What?! No! I’m the commander here I’m not going!
T- You seem like the only viable option here Jeo…
J- How about Remi?
B- Please not Remi!
T- Jeo it should only take a day, you’ll be fine…
J- ……..fine.
Time lapse to Bri and Jeo arriving at Willy Wonder’s wacky world theme park.
J- You’ve got to be fucking kidding me…
B- TT asked me where I thought would be fun so I picked this place…
J- ….
B- Is this ok?
Choice
(There’s alot of worse places you could’ve picked…)
(Let’s just get this over with…)
I figured this section could have a threshold of points called Bri’s relaxing or something. And the choices you make that are closer to what Bri likes raise it and the ones she doesn’t like make it go down. Depending on where the bar is filled depends on the endings. After this you’d get a choice of various rides and attractions to take to try and build up Bri’s relaxation. (I’d put some here, but this may be bullshit you hate so I’ll just put some suggestions without writing them out. If you actually like this I can write some out)
(Also, I think I should mention here that even though it resembles an ordinary dating sim I still fully planned every choice Jeo having making him sound like an unfeeling prick or a bigger unfeeling prick. That’s why I thought it’d be funny : D)
-Teacups
-Rollercoasters
-Those firing ranges to get prizes (Don’t know the actual name)
-hall of mirrors
-Boo! Haunted House
(Extra) Tunnel of Love- If you overfill Bri’s relaxation bar she invites you here.
B- Jeo we could go over here… If you want…
J- Tunnel of Love?
B- I know your not interested in that… but there’s something I wanted to give you there…
J- Alright…
B- You’ve been really nice to me today…
J- I have?
B- Well…. nice for you I mean… I know it’s hard for you to be nice so I thought I’d give you a present…
Blowjob scene, (Sideways to make more sense in context?)
After going on all the choices available, Bri get’s attacked by an enemy agent putting a knife to her throat, Jeo grabs his gun and aims at him. The goon tells Jeo to drop the gun and surrender himself over.
Choice
(Bri’s salvageable, I’ll drop my gun and wait for my next opportunity to fuck him up)
(Bri’s useless without her powers, I’ll just fire through her to get rid of this guy.)
If bottom is picked Bri dies, if the top is chosen with the bar full Bri’s power kicks back in stronger than ever and she fries the guy. If the bar isn’t full when the top is picked, maybe Arielle comes in and saves them or something. But Bri’s powers never kick back in.
Rewards- The only ending with a reward to speak is if you keep Bri alive and the bar is full some rewards might be.
-Enhanced powers in space battle and gathering
-Won’t disobey Jeo anymore
-More sex scenes where she uses her powers to make it more kinky
-enhanced stats in space battles (Frying the guy maybe gave her more confidence?)
-Change battle quotes to be less scarred (More confidence?)
Otherwise Bri would either end up dead or powerless.
I read this and it was really difficult to read past Willy Wonder’s wacky world theme park and teacups lol. if anything they would never leave the ship and be in the virtual reality room. And I can’t see Jeo helping with any of this. it starts off good thoguh. Actually Remi would have the most insight into Bri in this case sine she studies saboteur khalei. Maybe Bri gets headache or something instead of loose her powers randomly. let me think about this a bit.
I have thought of another story for Phia that I wished to submit.
For starters, I have thought about improving the dating sim trait of ARIA by implementing a system in which girls increasingly open up to Jeo if Jeo treats them well, which makes their interest toward Jeo increase.
(By the way, I’m playing ARIA v2.8.)
I also have thought that it would make ARIA nicer if a relationship stat was implemented beside the respect stat (I don’t even get why there is a respect stat as it has no effect on the girls behavior so in my opinion it could just be removed as it is pointless.) because girls might respect Jeo, they don’t necessarily actually love him and I don’t know about you guys but I am a romantic pervert (I wouldn’t have found and felt in love with ARIA if I was not looking for nice adult games, would I. ;-3), I enjoy passionate sex but I like it more when it has emotion in it and I noticed some details in ARIA which hint that Jeo is not actually really the selfish prick that he wants to seem to be…
Anyway, as I said, I do enjoy passionate sex but I enjoy it more with emotions than insensitive soulless fuck.
So in this regard, I think that ARIA would be even better if a relationship system is implemented and make the girls really fall in love for Jeo if he is nice to them.
Is Jeo nice to the girls, that depends on how the player wants him to be since after all it is the player who is in control of Jeo and so Jeo is the way the player wants him to be.
And how to do that, will you ask?
By making the talk task in girls’ free time actually meaningful.
Because I think that, as for now, the talk task is a good idea as it offers to the player the possibility to make Jeo care about people since this task allows the player to make Jeo to actually take time to get to know the girls better even though it is not necessary for the mission, which is one hint that Jeo cares more about people than he wants to show by the way, but unfortunately really poorly exploited in its current state as the girls say meaningless things to Jeo when he takes time to talk with them and Jeo doesn’t get to answer.
I think that ARIA would be better with actual meaningful optional dialogues with each girl.
And when I say dialogues, I do mean dialogues, meaning that Jeo gets to answer.
You know where I am going with that, don’t you?
Yes, just like visual novels and dating sims, the girls’ feelings toward the main character evolve depending on how he treat them.
In ARIA, it would be that if the player never bothers to talk to girls, then they will not open to him and their relationships will stay professional, no feeling.
If the player wants to make Jeo care about the girls, then he will take time to talk to them to get to know them better and how the girls feel about Jeo will depend on how he treats them, meaning how he reacts to what they tell him.
Of course, Jeo’s reactions will be the player’s choices.
And talking to the girls is an optional task so Jeo will talk to them only if the player wants him to.
So if the player doesn’t give a flip about the girls’ feelings then he might play the whole ARIA without ever bothering talking to the girls.
Actually you know what, Vortex00?
Don’t add a relationship stat, don’t draw the player’s attention to a hint that something might happen if he makes Jeo to care about the girls because then it would be pointless if the player plays caring only to get reward, don’t hint anything, make it a hidden stat and see if the player makes Jeo to care just because he wants Jeo to care or if he is fine with the selfish prick attitude.
If the player wants Jeo to actually care about the girls, makes him to take time for them, to listen to what they have to say, to care about how they feel, to satisfy their needs and wishes of all kinds, to pay attention to their well-being, then the girls will gradually become more and more interested in Jeo and open to him, granting optional scenes with them to make them grow closer to Jeo and have stronger and deeper feelings for him.
I really would like that to be implemented in ARIA which is already a great game that I enjoy a lot but that I think would be even more awesome with that! 😀
I am aware that you currently are busy with the new Unity 3D ARIA 3D tactical space battle whom I watched the gameplay that you presented and made me want to play it when it is achieved but if you could find some time to make ARIA an even more enjoyable game before we get to play the new ARIA game then it would be awesome! 😀
By the way, did you ever think about selling ARIA DRM-free in the Humble Storein itch.io store?
If you don’t know them yet then here they are: https://www.humblebundle.com/store https://itch.io/
Yes, I know right, you never wanted to sell the games that you develop because you are happy to share them with everyone and you don’t want that people have to pay for playing them.
And this is exactly why I suggested the Humble Store and itch.io precisely! 😉
Because of their pay-what-you-want system which allows people to choose on their own what they want to pay according to how much they can afford and how much they want to reward you.
I cannot afford to patreon you as I cannot afford to give a constant donation but I enjoyed ARIA so much that I would gladly reward you for your efforts by buying it DRM-free in the Humble Store or in itch.io store, even if you give it for free, just for letting you know how much I like what you do. 😉
Ah, also, please make sure to provide Linux version in order to not being accomplice with Microsoft’s and Apple’s dictatorships, let people be free to choose with which OS they want to play, thanks. 😉
Anyway, let me know if ARIA becomes buyable in the Humble Store or/and in itch.io store, I think I would give 10€ for it as I think it deserves as much. 🙂
I know that you will keep offering free versions as money was never your motive, which makes you a better creator than most who are motivated by greed, but even though, as I said, I enjoyed ARIA so much that I want to reward your efforts in it so I will gladly buy it even if it is available free. 😉
Okay, let’s get back to suggestions for making ARIA an even better game.
Another thing which might and should have an effect on the girls’ behavior with Jeo is if he does what they suggest to him in their messages, showing that he cares about what they say instead of just doing things his way and not care about the girls’ advises.
Indeed, the girls send messages to Jeo but whether he follows their advises or not has currently no effect on their behavior toward him, it only grants optional scenes, which is nice, but doesn’t make any difference with the girls.
I think this is unfortunate as they should be happy that Jeo cares about what they say.
Also, I think that having sex with the 4 girls is a boring task as it gets quickly repetitive.
I mean, all that I have to do as a player is to watch and click on “Next.”.
Is that what you call a gameplay?
I mean, come on, Vortex00, you made Umichan Maiko because you thought that hentai games lacked gameplay, it was always about watching and clicking next, so you wanted to raise the bar, to offer an actual game, is what you said was your motivation when you developed Umichan Maiko.
And you did succeed to make a hentai game with an actual gameplay.
So why didn’t you use this gameplay in the hentai scenes in ARIA?
Why did you make “watch and click next” scenes when yourself thought it was boring?
I think that ARIA would be better if the hentai scenes actually had gameplay.
Don’t make the player be passive and just watch the action, make him actively take part in the heat! 😉
I was thinking that you could implement in ARIA’s hentai scenes the gameplay that you developed in Umichan Maiko Deluxe to make the scenes more interactive, make the player take a bigger part in the heat.
But if you think of another gameplay to make the scenes more entertaining, then please surprise us. ;-3
Also, I think that getting the girls to have sex with Jeo is way too easy, it doesn’t feel rewarding at all because we don’t have to deserve it.
You know what would make ARIA more interesting?
It would be that at first, Phia is the only one who accepts to have sex with Jeo and if we ask to another girl to have sex, she refuses and answers “Ask to Phia instead, she will be absolutely thrilled to obey.”.
Then if Jeo is nice to the girls, they will start to accept to have sex with him but hesitantly at first.
It will be boring sex where the girls will just let Jeo have his way with them but they will be passive, not passionate, they will not try to actively take part in the heat.
Then if they truly fall in love with him, they will become absolutely delighted to have sex with him and will be passionate, more active, will tell to Jeo what they want, just like in Umichan Maiko Deluxe. 😉
Being nice to the girls will grant more positions with each of them as they will gradually tell what they like, making having sex with each girl different than with the others instead of being the same with all as it is currently.
Don’t you think that would make having sex with the girls feel more rewarding and be more interesting? 😉
Also, ARIA lacks of foreplay!
Sex isn’t only about penetration, there is also things to do with hands and mouth.
As I said, ARIA lacks of foreplay!
By the way, please, oh pretty please, get Pinoytoons back to draw the characters arts as the characters art in ARIA is really amazing!
Honest, I don’t like the character arts in other ARIA games, even the ones showcased by the artist who hails from the AAA industry for the new Unity 3D ARIA game.
I honestly think that Pinoytoons was doing better.
Is it possible that Pinoytoons comes back at it?
About the voices, I want to tell that the voice acting made fore ARIA is really nice!
Each voice suits each character well.
Arielle’s voice is kinda military, Phia’ voice is sweet, Tiffany’s voice is confident and Bri’s voice is shy, which suits each character just fine!
So, congratulations for the voice acting. 🙂
That being said, I still noticed a few flaws though.
There seems to be an error which makes the 4 girls sound displeased whenever we ask them to eat or want to talk, even though they look glad and they obey.
I understand that Phia doesn’t like much to talk because that wastes her sex time but why do Arielle, Tiffany and Bri sound displeased when we want to talk to them?
Also, Tiffany is the only one who sounds displeased when we ask her to cook while she is the one who is said to enjoy cooking.
I would think that Phia would be the one who wouldn’t love cooking however she sounds delighted when we ask her to cook.
This is why I think some errors were made in which voice triggers in which task.
Also, I never can get what Phia screams during sex. What does she say?
Also, if you want to make Remi part of the team then please give her a voice because that sounds weird that she is the only one to not speak in the team.
But to be honest, I think that is not a very good idea to make her a part of the team as she unbalances the team.
I mean, she starts with 2000 in every stat, what is the point of adding an overpowered character in a balanced team and unbalance it?
In my opinion, you should just put her with the other special agents, Jeo and Luma team, and not in the main team as she really unbalances it.
Also, why can’t we ask her to support one of the 4 girls in battle?
Why not be able to ask to Luma team to support one of the 4 girls in battle too?
Why Remi and Luma can be sent to battle only as main pilot whereas Jeo can be sent as a support for one of the 4 girls?
And I have an idea about an optional scene with Lynn.
When I witnessed the scene when Lynn is shaken after she has pictured in her head how Bri described she will be raped if she goes to the trap set by Natan, my first instinct was to go to her in order to comfort her.
Unfortunately, she just kept saying the same thing that she always say when Jeo talks to her.
So here is my idea for the optional scene with Lynn that I imagined:
If the player has the same instinct that I had, meaning if he goes to talk to her when she is shaken by Bri’s dream, if it is the first thing that he does after witnessing the scene with Bri, this triggers an optional scene where Jeo finds Lynn crying all by herself and asks her what’s wrong.
She then answers that he already has his own problems and that she doesn’t want to burden him further.
He then answers that his problems are already about her since he is hunted for having supposedly assaulted her so it is in his best interest to make sure of her well-being aboard his ship.
Now since Arielle told to Jeo that Lynn and him have to be close for her to stick up for him, him being him, I assume that Jeo and Lynn are indeed close, which is why I imagine the scene goes on this way:
Lynn asks to Jeo if he really only cares about her well-being for the pragmatic reasons he claims.
Jeo answers “Who knows.” in his usual way.
Then Lynn answers that he can’t do anything about her problem anyway, to which Jeo answers that there is nothing that he can’t do.
Lynn tells then about Bri’s dream and how she got pictured her virginity was forcibly taken from her.
Jeo then answers that the solution to her problem is easy to do.
Lynn answers “Really?”, to which Jeo answers “Really. No one will be able to take your virginity against your will if you already gave it on your free will.”.
Then a hot hentai scene follows in which Lynn gives her virginity to Jeo.
And that would make Arielle telling to Jeo that she saw Lynn with Phia making naughty things with the mercenaries have more sense if that happens after Jeo has made Lynn discover how good sex feels.
Another idea for an optional scene this time with Riley:
After Luma team joins Jeo ship, at some point Phia tells to Jeo that Riley is even more uptight than Ari and asks to Jeo if he wants to double team her to loosen her up.
After Phia told that, you know what was my first instinct.
Yes, I went to Riley right away, imagining that it would grant a scene where Phia and Jeo double team her as Phia suggested.
Unfortunately again, Riley just kept saying the same thing that she always does when I talked to her.
So here is an idea for an optional scene with Riley:
If the player has the same instinct has I have, if he goes to Riley right after Phia suggested to Jeo to double team her, if it is the first thing that he does after Phia told that, then this grants a hentai scene where Jeo joins Phia who is talking naughty to Riley then when Jeo arrives, Phia tells to Riley that she gonna show her what she is missing and she has sex with Jeo in front of Riley in a way to make Riley want to join.
This scene would make perfect use of the Umichan Maiko Deluxe gameplay that I suggested to implement in ARIA as Riley will want to join only if Jeo satisfies Phia’s desires, meaning if the player follows Phia leads just like in Umichan Maiko Deluxe.
Then if the player succeeds with Phia and Riley wants to join, the scene continue with Riley added in.
If the player fails to satisfy Phia, then Riley doesn’t want to join and the scene ends here.
Well, since I am making suggestions, I have some more and since I don’t know where to share them, I might as well do it here.
That doesn’t make any sense that the scene when Amp joins the ship triggers before we get to battle her as a test.
That doesn’t make any sense either that the scene when Luma team also joins the ship before we even go to meet her in space.
I think that some error was made since they trigger at wrong times, you didn’t notice?
Also, the Ari Lover scene appears out of nowhere in the holodesk but this scene doesn’t happen in the main story like every other scenes do.
This makes it feel as if it doesn’t actually happen, the fact that this scene doesn’t automatically triggers when the player fulfills the conditions to grant it like every other optional scene do makes this scene feel as if it doesn’t really happen.
Is it also an error somewhere in the program? Was it supposed to automatically happen when the player fulfills the conditions to grant it?
Please, fully integrate this optional scene in the game events like every other optional scene.
By the way, the conditions for granting this scene is to love Arielle enough to make her charisma grow to over 2000 and to reach area 10.
But thinking about it, I think that this last condition doesn’t fit with the game events.
I mean, when they arrive in area 10, they are greeted by Sire before battling him.
I honestly don’t imagine Jeo and Arielle having deep sex while Sire is waiting for them to be ready to battle.
So I think that the Ari Lover scene cannot trigger upon arriving in area 10.
This is why I suggest to remove the area 10 condition and just trigger this scene when the player makes Jeo to have sex with Arielle upon reaching 2000 in charisma.
Basically, keep the first condition (Make Jeo love Arielle so much that she reaches 2000 in charisma.) and remove the second one (Area 10.) in order to make this scene to trigger at a fitting time. 😉
Still in the holodesk, why is the Roy scene not here even though I sent Phia to talk to him when she requested me to do and the scene happened in the game events?
Is it also an error in the program which makes this scene to not be in the holodesk after it happened in the game events?
Please fix it.
By the way, I don’t get how to have sex with AI without unlocking it in rank battles, which I don’t like because I want to do what it takes to get things, not just getting them as rewards of rank battles.
You explained in the walkthrough that to have sex with Phia as the last task of the day when Luma is in the ship grants sex with Luma and that raiding every Yui’s fleet ship and defeating her as Jeo grants sex with her but there is no mention of what to do in order to be granted sex with AI, I discovered this was possible as a reward of rank battles, but as I said, I don’t like this way of getting things, I want to do what it takes to be granted it.
So what is it? Could you please add it in the walkthrough as you seem to have forgotten it?
Last thing in the holodesk, I unlocked in rank battles a hentai scene where Phia sexually assaults all 3 other girls then it ends with the 3 assaulted girls sexually assaulting her as a revenge.
I read in the walkthrough that this scene happens if Phia’s respect for Jeo is under 50 and if Jeo gives her free time as the last task of the day.
Here is my point:
THAT IS UNFAIR that we don’t get this hot scene if we treat Phia well!
Moreover, you must be kidding right?
Jeo finds 4 girls horny in the kitchen and his reaction is “Go back to work.”?!?
I mean, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT JEO HERE, how come that his first instinct is not to join the fun?!?
You know what I hoped when Jeo arrived?
I hoped that Phia was going to grab him, lay him on the table, then tear his clothes off and request him to fulfill his girls’ needs.
Then the scene continues with Jeo pleasuring all the 4 girls.
One with his dick, another with his mouth and the 2 others with his fingers, you know, since he has 2 hands. ;-3
And you know what would be very fun?
With Umichan Maiko Deluxe gameplay implemented in ARIA hentai scenes, this scene where Jeo pleasures 4 girls simultaneously would be the most challenging in the game since the player would have to follow 4 girls’ leads simultaneously, basically the player would have to pay attention to all the 4 girls simultaneously, which is how it would be in real. :-3
So I suggest that the conditions to grant this hot harem hentai scene would be that Jeo loved all the 4 girls so much that all of them has reached over 2000 in charisma then give Phia free time as the last task of the day. 😉
You redesigned the ships in ARIO and I think that they indeed look nicer.
So could you please replace the current models ships in ARIA by those in ARIO as well since they are nicer?
Okay now that I have shared all of my suggestions which I think would make ARIA even better, let’s talk about Phia’s story. 🙂
As I said, I have thought of a story for her that I wanted to submit.
Phia was raped when she was a teenager, she wanted that never to happen again so she thought that she could never be raped again if she was always willing to have sex.
Indeed, the logic is quite simple, a rape is to have sex with someone against this person’s will.
So if someone is always willing then this person cannot be raped.
This is the conclusion that Phia came to after her rape and this is why she became always willing to have sex.
Even still she is always willing to have sex with anyone, she is especially interested in Jeo.
I know it because I cannot spend a single day without her coming to ask me to stick my dick between her breasts even though she has a whole crew of 2000 mercenaries to keep happy, as she says sometimes.
Also, after I sent her to talk to her brother as she asked me to do and she fucked him, she kept saying to Jeo that “NO ONE can love her like her brother!”.
Until I made Jeo make love to her to prove her wrong.
And guess what? After that, she stopped saying that.
Meaning that she was saying that only to make Jeo to want to prove her wrong.
Meaning that she wanted to be loved by Jeo more than she was by her brother.
Now about Jeo, I need to explain why he is not really the selfish prick that he wants to seem to be.
If you unlocked the Ari Lover scene, then you know that Jeo is aware that Arielle let Harold to fuck her.
He even says to Arielle that he is planning to kill Harold.
He tells her that this will be his way of returning the favor.
But what if his true motivation is to get Arielle rid of Harold because he actually loves her?
Because he tells Arielle that all that he wants is revenge.
But revenge for what?
Why does he tell to Arielle: “Don’t worry, your “daddy” is on my hit list.”?
What Harold has to do with Natan framing him?
What does Jeo wants to have revenge on Harold for?
Couldn’t it be that Jeo wants revenge on Harold for abusing Arielle?
Then why is he so cold with her?
Because he is aware that Arielle let Harold to fuck her and that would hurt if he didn’t lock his heart up.
Indeed, Jeo has locked his heart up in order to protect himself from pain.
He cannot feel pain if he doesn’t feel anything.
This is why he suppressed his emotions.
And this is why he seems to be an insensitive selfish prick.
But if you play ARIA and pay really close attention to Jeo, you will notice a few clues that hint that Jeo actually cares about people but wants to be seen as a selfish prick.
Jeo just can’t show any feeling until Harold is dead.
And I reeeeeeally hope that Jeo will murder Harold, this is the only outcome which would make me feel satisfied.
Bri says that when she looks at Jeo, she sees only darkness.
What is darkness?
The lack of light.
Meaning shadow.
We all know that we can’t see what is in the dark but that doesn’t mean that there is nothing.
Bri is aware of that as she also says that she wants to believe that there is more to Jeo than darkness.
Meaning that she believes that it is possible than there is more to Jeo than what she can see.
But Bri is almost a psychic, she could tell that Jeo was genuine when he told he was framed by Natan.
She could tell if there was nothing inside Jeo, she wouldn’t even wonder.
But she wonders.
Meaning that she doesn’t see anything in Jeo but she is not sure that there is nothing.
She also says that having sex with Jeo feels empty.
Meaning that she can’t feel anything from Jeo.
But pay attention to the fact that she doesn’t say “It is empty.”, she says “It feels empty.”.
Meaning that this is how Jeo makes her feel but still doesn’t make her say that he is empty.
Jeo knows how to hide his feelings.
One more clue that I noticed, still in the Ari Lover scene, when Arielle asks to Jeo why he doesn’t love her, Jeo answers “Because seeing you cry makes me cum harder, that’s what you wanted, right?” as Arielle asked to Jeo to cum hard inside her so she gets pregnant.
Pay attention to the fact that Jeo did what Arielle asked, meaning that he doesn’t disagree with the idea of having a child with Arielle, which is a BIG hint to Jeo’s true feelings.
Then Arielle answers “Then what you said isn’t true?” to which Jeo answers “Who knows.”.
Pay attention to the fact that he didn’t tell that he doesn’t love Arielle, he just doesn’t want to admit it, is all.
And to put the nail on the coffin, why would the scene’s name be “Ari Lover” which obviously refer to Jeo if Jeo didn’t love Ari, hmm?
Another detail, when Jeo fucks Yui, he let her be in control and tells her “Go ahead, you don’t get the satisfaction you need from Cain. He is always too busy guarding Lynn.”.
Does that sound like something a selfish prick would say to you?
If he fucks Yui as a punishment for wasting his time as he pretends, then why does he let her be in control?
Why doesn’t he just do to her what he wants without caring about her?
And why would he even care about her satisfaction if he really didn’t care about people?
That sounds more like a favor that he gives to Yui because he knows that she doesn’t get satisfaction from Cain than a punishment to me.
That sounds caring.
Then after she cums, she let her go.
If his only purpose was to make his way to his objective, then wouldn’t it make more sense to keep Yui as an hostage to make Cain let him pass?
Or if he knows that Cain wouldn’t let him pass even for Yui’s sake, he would hold Yui in cell at least to make sure than she will not get in his way again.
However, he let her go after making her cum.
Does that sound selfish to you?
I don’t think so.
Now about Arielle.
Why the hell does she let a disgusting old fat bastard to fuck her?
Why doesn’t she just quit GemCo and do something else with her life?
Arielle is an admiral’s daughter, we know it because at some point, Tiffany says to Jeo “GemCo must not see you as a real danger otherwise they would not have sent an admiral’s daughter and her newly formed team to track you.”.
I imagine this is the typical story of the military family who has been in the army for generations and that it is unthinkable that a member of the family does something else than being in the army.
This is why Arielle stays in GemCo even though she lives Hell there.
But this is not her true main reason.
Her true main reason to stay at GemCo even though she lives Hell there is that if she leaves GemCo then she will be away from Jeo.
And this thought is unbearable to her, even more than the thought to let Harold abuse her.
We know that because when that bastard Harold informs her that Jeo has turned rogue, she tries to get permission to leave from Sire and when Sire tells her that she may leave if Harold tells him personally that it’s okay, she is so desperate to go after Jeo that she let that bastard Harold (I really hate this guy.) to abuse her, to fuck her, to cum inside her, ugh, so disgusting…
And I am not the only one to think this way as if you pay attention to Arielle’s face while Harold is fucking her, she really looks disgusted, especially when he cums inside her.
Anyway, once she gets permission to leave, Harold warns her that this permission is not official (Then what’s the point?!?) and that she will be seen as rogue by the other agents.
That doesn’t bother Arielle in the slightest, she doesn’t care to become rogue and to fight against the whole GemCo if they get in her way to be with Jeo.
And when they are about to go back to GemCo, in the Ari Lover scene, Arielle tells to Jeo that she never wants to go back and that she wants to just run away with Jeo.
That means that she is ready to leave everything behind her, the army, her military life, her family, nothing matters to her beside Jeo.
She even tells to Jeo that he can take her wherever he wants, meaning that she doesn’t even care where as long as it is with Jeo.
She even abandons her military personality and tells to Jeo that she wants to become a mother, to cook, to clean, to become a housewife in a word.
So you see?
She is ready to radically change her life for Jeo.
Does she not hit you deep in the heart?
Don’t you dream of having a girl who loves you so much that absolutely nothing in the world matters to her beside you?
Anyway, nothing matters to Arielle beside Jeo, she has proved it with everything that she has gone through for Jeo’s sake.
I can also tell that Tiffany is interested in Jeo.
What makes me say that?
Sometimes, she says things to Jeo like:
“You should really let me take samples of your sperm…for scientific reasons of course.” which sounds really suspicious to me.
“Let me know if you need any medical attention.” and we all know what kind of medical attention Jeo needs for his condition.
“Don’t pay attention to the bottom horse, it is in case Phia and me need more thickness.” which I take as a challenge to prove her that they don’t need it.
Also, when she is having sex with Jeo, what does she say?
“This is even better than I predicted!”.
Meaning that she already imagined having sex with Jeo, that she was waiting for this, and that she really enjoys it.
Now about Bri, she looks the youngest but she might actually be the oldest of all.
Tiffany sometimes says “Bri’s underdevelopment is due to the interruption of her growth process.”, meaning that she stopped grow but we don’t actually know how old she really is.
But Arielle sometimes says “Bri looks much younger but at times, she sounds much older.” which means that Bri is wiser than the others despite her looks and her lack of experience in life.
We know that because Bri sometimes says “I didn’t get to see the world until a few years ago.”.
How long has she been in a laboratory?
Long enough to study her and create the Hex agents based on her khalei.
By the way, I like the idea of wilsonthegreen’s to take days off in order to complete optional quests for the girls’ sake.
Votex00, I really think you should implement this days off optional quests in ARIA.
You told that it wouldn’t fit as Jeo is most wanted and so cannot leave the ship.
But you forgot something.
The fact that Jeo turned rogue was kept secret as Harold told that not many people know about it and that he was not even supposed to tell Arielle.
So there is no way that he is most wanted by everyone as not many people know that he is wanted.
Then he can leave his ship and go wherever he wants as long as he doesn’t meet the special agents sent to capture him.
And how would his hunters know where he is as his ship has a stealth system?
Then he can stop by wherever he wants, there is no problem.
So please consider implementing the days off optional quests for each girl in order to improve the dating sim trait of ARIA. 🙂
By the way, you still are reading suggestions even though the last which was posted here is 3 years ago, right, Vortex00?
@maximemartyr
Many thanks for the feedback.
I skimmed a lot and went to the bottom. So i guess the answer to your last question is no. but I tried to skim through as much as I could.
I will try to answer the main stuff, and it should fit as a response to mostly all of it at least.
1. ARIA was made in flash actionscript2. All flash games will not be playable in a year or so since adobe is ending support. Any effort I spend adding, fixing or modifying anything to this game would be irrelevant very soon.
2. Pinoytoons is working on other stuff and barely even has time to do art for that. so it is not possible. I haven’t mentioned this before but I actually had him try to add standing idle animations to ARIA and it didn’t even come close to matching his original work. So even he can’t do it. Plus I quite like the new art, liking one style of art more than another is subjective.
3. I don’t plan on making Jeo a romantic. Maybe in a prequel at best. The intent of the design was to make the exact opposite of the typical beta protagonist. However as you noticed Jeo has a few layers to his personality. The complexity is intended. The same complexity is intended for other character also, especially Arielle.
4. Thanks, I am familiar with itch.io, gamejolt and other sites. I just haven’t posted anything there yet.
5. Understand that the gameplay in ARIA is in the space battles. You “watch and click next” in the sex because that is not part of the gameplay. I wanted to separate gameplay and sex so people can appreciate the animations without worrying about failing some minigame.
6. Bri using her using her power would kill people, not make sex more kinky.
7. Phia has a background story already and it doesn’t involve any rape.
If there is something I missed that is not covered here please copy and paste it again separately and please try to make it brief. Things you mentioned like optional quests is covered in #1. I think the bulk of it is also.
I am not in a hurry, you can take your time to read carefully my ideas and answer to each of them.
I appreciate that you reacted so fast, but you don’t have to answer right away.
I prefer that you take time to actually read and answer when you can than to skim through and don’t pay actual attention to what I suggest.
I mean, I took a lot of my time to share all of the ideas that ARIA inspired me so I would appreciate that you take the time to properly consider them.
I know right that you are busy with your new Unity 3D ARIA game, I am aware of this fact, I’m not saying that you have nothing else to do with your time than to read suggestions, I wouldn’t like to be misunderstood.
This is why I say that I am not in a hurry, it is not as if I need that you answer right away and as I also said, I would rather you take time to pay actual attention when you can than just skim through and answer in a way which makes me feel as if you don’t give a shit to what I say.
So answer when you actually can take time to do please.
1. Would it be hard to import all assets into another game engine in order to allow ARIA to stay alive?
Preferably a multi-platforms game engine which allows games to be developed and played with any OS in order to not limit the compatibility of games.
How about these which are free, multi-platforms and renown for making games development an easier task?
And since I am at it, I really wanted to tell you about something.
For your visual novels, you use TyranoBuilder.
Well… How to say it?
Alright I’m just going to be honest.
TyranoBuilder sucks!
It just sucks.
I know this visual novel software and I can tell that it sucks.
Every visual novel that I read which was made with this software was a pain to go through.
So I assume that you use it because you don’t know the most loved visual novel software which is used by almost all hobbyist visual novels writers.
Actually it is even used for more and more commercial visual novels too.
Which tells how great it is!
This awesome visual novel software, here it is: https://www.renpy.org/
And if you need to be convinced that you would make better visual novels with it, then here are a few examples of visual novels made with it to give you a taste of what you could do with it:
Okay, that should be enough examples to convince you that your visual novels would be better made with this software.
My motive for wanting to convince you is that I would like for your creations to be the best that you can do and in that regard, I suggest the best softwares that I know which I know would allow you to do even better than you currently can do because of the limits of the softwares that you currently use.
I hope that you do understand my motives here?
2. Oh? Pinoytoons lost his skill?
What a shame, the characters that he drawn for ARIA are really nice!
That is…really sad that he is not able to do as well anymore…
I wonder why he lost his skill…
Indeed, you’re absolutely right, liking one style more than another is really a matter of personal tastes and these differs from one person to another, which makes impossible to be to the liking of everyone no matter what.
But still, the characters arts in the other games that you developed feel so…cheap beside the high quality characters arts made by Pinoytoons.
I mean the difference of level of quality is noticeable, Pinoytoons is obviously the most experienced artist who got to draw for the games that you developed.
Except for the artist who hails from the AAA industry (What does that mean anyway?) who is drawing for the new Unity 3D ARIA game which is your current project.
For these, I cannot possibly say that it feels inexperienced indeed.
But still, his drawings feel more like paintings for display in an art museum than characters to play in a video game.
And they feel…fake.
They look as if they are made of plastic material, not flesh.
Didn’t you notice how glossy is their skin?
In my honest opinion, this artist is really skilled, I have no doubt about this fact, but his style doesn’t suit very well video games, he would fit much more as a painter.
Just my feeling about it, no offense please, I don’t mean to be mean or anything, I don’t have any point to be, I merely give my feedback.
Also, why does Bri has knives when she hates fighting and never wanted to fight?
Phil made her learn to gather resources to make her useful for a team because “she won’t lay a finger to fight”.
With Bri’s personality, there is no way that she would carry any weapon.
Shouldn’t the artist learn to know the character well before drawing her in order to create a look which suits her personality?
But the worst is Jeo.
Jeo is supposed to be the alpha male, the man that no woman in the universe could resist, he is supposed to transpire manhood in any room that he is, he is like a space James Bond, an unstoppable charismatic special agent who seduces every woman on his way with his irresistible manhood, that’s how he is in ARIA.
Then why the Jeo drawn by the new artist looks so feminine?
Why are his physical traits so delicate?
Where has his irresistible manhood that no woman in the universe can resist gone?
Why does he now look like a K-Pop band member?
Just compare the Jeo drawn by Pinoytoons and the Jeo drawn by the new artist.
The first looks manly, the second looks feminine.
But his new ship looks badass, suits him well!
3. Yes, I think I got it right that you don’t want Jeo to be a cliché charming prince in a shining armor who saves the captive princess on his white horse.
But that doesn’t mean he has to be a despicable jerk, does it?
Making him an uncaring insensitive selfish jerk would be as much cliche, there are so many around already.
It would be going into an extreme to avoid going into the other extreme, which would be pointless as it would still be going into an extreme.
Being on a side or in the opposite side would be plain either way.
Making Jeo good or bad will be cliché either way.
What makes Jeo so interesting is that his personality is not plain, it is complicated, it is intricate.
Jeo stands between two opposite.
He is neither good neither bad, he is…complicated.
He is an unstoppable dark heroes whose personality is complex.
I noticed all of what I told in my first post because I paid really close attention to him and this is why I could notice details about him that most of people missed.
His personality is not plain, it has several layers as you said, like a maze.
But I know that he is not a bad person deep down, Arielle wouldn’t have fallen so deep in love with him that she would do anything for him if she didn’t notice something worth it deep down in him.
And I wouldn’t have been able to notice that he is more caring than he seems to be if there was nothing to notice.
He cares about people, especially Arielle, but suppresses any feeling because he plans to take corrupt GemCo down so he has to be unstoppable, he cannot allow himself to show any vulnerability, he has to seem uncaring, insensitive, in order to make sure than no one could possibly realize what he thinks of GemCo deeds.
He has to make sure that everyone think that he doesn’t give a shit so no one could possibly imagine that he wants to put an end to GemCo horrible deeds.
He has to be as dark as a shadow, that no one can see through.
So far, only Arielle sensed something in him which made her fall madly in love with him.
That has to be something really mind-blowing to have such an effect on Arielle’s heart.
Or heart-blowing should I say. :-3
Anyway, there has to be something more to Jeo than it seems to be.
Arielle is warm-hearted so she would never have fallen in love with a cold-hearted guy.
Which means that Jeo is more complicated than he seems to be.
My point is that I understand that you don’t want Jeo to be a cliché charming prince, but he doesn’t have to be bad for not being cliché.
And actually, making him bad would be just as much cliché so that would ruin your whole intent of creating a character different from the cliché protagonist.
Meaning that you wouldn’t achieve your objective.
4. You don’t want the games that you develop to be available on itch.io nor GameJolt?
I know right that you don’t want to sell the games that you develop because you want them to be free for everyone.
But what about the players who want to reward you?
This is why I advise you to consider itch.io because there you can share the games that you develop for free but players who want to reward you are free to pay what they want according to what they can afford and how much they think the game is worth.
Meaning that there you can keep sharing the games that you develop for free but you also give a way to players who want it to reward your work.
Doesn’t it sound nice? 🙂
5. Is that possible to fail a gameplay as easy as Umichan Maiko Deluxe?
I understand your point, but seeing the exact same scene again is again gets quickly repetitive and boring.
If at least there was more variety and it would be random, then at least we wouldn’t know which scene will it be this time, it would be a surprise every time and that would make it more fun.
Okay then how about this:
In order to easily please everyone, those who want to be passive and just watch and those who want to be active and interact, how about making sex minigames optional?
You could gain more relationship points if you choose to listen to what the girls want and please them but there would also be non-interactive animations scenes for when you just want to watch some hentai and don’t feel like interacting, that would grant less relationship points but you would still get to watch some hentai.
Does that sound fair?
6. What?!?
When did I talk about using Bri’s powers?
I even never ever made Jeo send her to battle precisely because I knew that using her powers would hurt her (and also because I knew that she doesn’t like fighting).
I didn’t make Jeo send Tiffany to any battle either because she told Jeo that she doesn’t like fighting either.
As I was in control of Jeo, he took great care of everyone, did everything to make them happy and never hurt them.
Anyway, there is no way that I would ask to use Bri’s powers knowing that this would hurt her.
I even didn’t want to deploy her in ARIO precisely for the same reasons as in ARIA and didn’t understand that she was willing to fight and that she was not injured after battle.
Well, since I talk to you about this, I might as well point to you that you made a big mistake of inconsistency there.
It is as if you forgot the way Bri is.
You seem to have forgotten that she deeply dislikes violence and that making her use her powers hurts her.
Maybe you should read her dossier in ARIA to refresh your memory, sending her to battle causes her to be in an injured state.
She sometimes tells to Jeo “I don’t like fighting. How can you kill someone and think nothing of it? That is an horrifying though!”, making clear that she absolutely doesn’t want to fight and even Phil told to Tiffany when she went to take Bri at his lab that “she won’t lay a finger to fight”.
To be honest, I dislike ARIO because there are too many inconsistencies, it feels as if you completely forgot a lot of things about ARIA when you made ARIO.
So I chose to consider that ARIO never happened as it is too inconsistent with ARIA.
And since I am at it, I might as well draw your attention on ARIA The Rookie.
I read this visual novel and I also chose to consider that it never happened because it is also too inconsistent with ARIA.
It really feels as if each time that you develop a new ARIA game, you completely forget a lot of things about ARIA and you generate a lot of inconsistencies who ruin the whole story as it doesn’t stand anymore.
So I have to choose to consider that never happened in order to not ruin ARIA story.
ARIA, ARIO and ARIA The Rookie just cannot coexist as they contradict each other.
This is why I chose to consider that ARIO and ARIA The Rookie never happened in order to not ruin ARIA story with inconsistencies and I am waiting for a proper sequel that ARIA deserves.
I have high hopes for the new Unity 3D ARIA game whose the gameplay looks fun but I hope that you are going to play ARIA again in order to remind you every detail about it and not generate inconsistencies. 🙂
7. Oh? Interesting. Then what is Phia’s background story?
There are A LOT that you missed but as I said, I’m not craving for answers right away so please again, take the time that you need to properly read what I take time to properly write and answer when you can, thanks. 😉
Hello,
I have taken a closer look at each of the 10 free open-source multi-platforms game engines that I listed and I want to share updated info about them:
– The links that I gave for Torque engines seem to be outdated as the games that I found using these engines all seem old.
However I managed to find a website which feels much fresher and a list of games newer so now I share the good location for the up-to-date Torque engine: http://torque3d.org/
– Moai seems to be used only for mobile games.
– GDevelop is designed to be used by anyone wanting to create 2D games without requiring any programming skill as everything is made thanks to visual editors.
GDevelop uses an “event based” system, using conditions which have to been filled so as to execute actions.
These events are compiled by GDevelop to machine code, as ordinary programming languages.
This means that the game creator uses visual editors to tell to GDevlop what conditions have to be filled in order to execute what actions without programming anything and GDevelop itself translates these human language instructions into computer languages.
This basically means that GDevelop takes care of all programming while the game creator tells what they want in human language, which makes GDevelop the most suitable games creation tool for people who want to create games but don’t have any skill in programming.
Actually, I even found 3D games made with GDevelop.
I found a work-in-progress 2D game made with GDevelop which looks really nice but that I gave up at my 5th death.
Or was it my 10th?
:-3
Here it is: https://mcs.itch.io/rob-the-dog
I also found another nice game made with GDevelop whose name is Gleamy that I didn’t get into the bouncing gameplay but that I recognize it is nicely done anyway. 🙂
Here it is: http://www.compilgames.net/dl/hosted/gleamy_demo.rar
– Superpowers and PlayCanvas both are designed for web browser games.
I had fun with a few games made with these 2 softwares and especially a multiplayer arena robots battle game made with PlayCanvas whose name is Robostorm. 🙂
Here it is: https://robostorm.io/
– Godot is my current favorite free open-source multi-platforms game engine as I have been really amazed at its potential and it seems to be really popular among hobbyist games developers!
I found quite a lot of games running on this engine, I really saw all kinds of games made with Godot, I played quite a few of them, and they felt really smooth and nice, I enjoyed them!
I even saw some commercial games running on this engine.
Godot’s native scripting language is GDScript, a Python-like scripting language, designed to make games with zero hassle, but Godot community is currently implementing Mono support, the open-source iteration of Microsoft’s proprietary C scripting language, so its possibilities are growing even wider as it adds another scripting language!
I made a research “Is Godot beginner friendly?” and I found an interesting recommendation from a teacher at the School for Games in Berlin.
Here it is: https://www.quora.com/Should-I-learn-Godot-or-Unity-as-a-beginner
I found the 2nd answer funny as the guy mocked how Godot fans come to Unity forums “to proselytize greatness of Godot engine” and said that he didn’t want to deal with nonsense while this is exactly what he did as he proselytized greatness of Unity while his answer doesn’t make sense as the question was “Should I learn Godot or Unity as a beginner?” as he is “familiar with unity 3d game engine” and he learned game engine development as a kid so he is totally not a beginner and he proselytized greatness of Unity while not considering things from a beginner point of view as the teacher did in the 1st answer as he elaborated on why his school switched from Unity to Godot and how their students’ performances improved significantly.
This teacher explains that beginners should learn with Godot first before switching to a more complicated game engine as their understanding of Godot help them to improve their scripting skill significantly, as it did for even himself who was supposed to teach it, even the teacher learned from Godot. :-3
Another point which makes me think greatly of Godot is the hilarious and smart humor of the core developers which gave me a good laugh when I read their April 1st news that I can’t resist sharing with you: https://godotengine.org/article/godot-now-really-free https://godotengine.org/article/godot-aims-mainstream
– The JMonkey engine is the free open-source multiplatforms engine which managed to impress me the most!
So now you want to ask “Then why your favorite is Godot if JMonkey impressed you even more?”.
It is because JMonkey might be more powerful, thus allowing to develop more complicated games, it is not beginner-friendly, so it is not for everyone.
You better know Java before using JMonkey.
JMonkey is a game development suite made especially for game developers who want to create 3D games with modern technology standards.
The software is programmed entirely in Java and they say about it that “Done Right, Java can be blazing fast. To be blunt: Java will always be easier to Do Right than C++. We provide Java developers with the tools they need to make highly performant 3D games on par with any other engine out there, without the headaches of compiler code. ”
Like with Godot, I have found quite a lot of games made with JMonkey and some really nice too! 😀
Many of them feel cubic but I don’t mind if it is nice. 🙂
For who is interested, let me share with you some of my discoveries. 😉 http://www.lightspeedfrontier.com/ https://stephensmith.itch.io/aresdogfighter https://ghook.speedrungames.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBD_YNKiTY
There is this guy whose name is Phr00t (reminds me of this other games creator who has “00” in their name… ;-3) who seems to really enjoy developing games with JMonkey as I discovered a whole series of games made by Phr00t with JMonkey: https://www.indiedb.com/games/gentrieve-2 https://sites.google.com/site/3079game/ https://3089game.wordpress.com/features/ https://4089game.wordpress.com/ https://www.indiedb.com/games/5089-the-action-rpg
Thanks for the analysis. Yeah i was going to try godot at some point. Imo no engine is a simple as pick it up and go. And my main issues is the time it takes to pick up a new programming.
i like the idea and also if you win, the girls will gain less fatigue and you can have sex with them not only every second day
a few problems here. The idea begins fine but Jeo would probably leave Phia there with him, not compete to get her back. assuming he even went after her in the first place. I doubt Phia would defend Jeo in relation to his combat ability since Phia is quite confident of her own ability. Also jeo, the most wanted GemCo rogue agent, can’t just walk into a bar and nothing happen. so maybe he goes as his alias Jinru or something and has purple hair like in umcc.
The guy she is going to see could probably be her brother Roy from area 3 I think. He was already talking greasy about Jeo anyway. If you talk to him as Phia and convince him to leave he will contact Phia later maybe in area 5 or something. or sometime before TT finds the container. I think JNeo can decide to go after Phia for not. but either way she will come back.
Phis is not just some sleezy slut who only cares about sex. as you might have noticed Phia is very protective of her friends and family from jeo. She doesn’t want them to get involved. And she knows a lot of people in GemCo that might be looking for Jeo also, so better to remain with Jeo to try to get them out of the way. Plus she expresses concern for Arielle.
Also it is implied at the start of the game that Phia did a little research of Jeo. She already knew about Arielle’s connections to him. She feels confident that Jeo can’t do anything that would catch her off guard.
She explains all of this to Roy as to why she needs to stay there.
if at the start of the quest you decided for Jeo to go after phia he will show up and Roy will try to clown him. Roy is physically bigger and more muscular. You can decide to kill him or not. if you kill him phia will leave(or possibly take the hit idk) if you let him live Phia will approve know Jeo points his aggression only at the targets that matter.
maybe this can also lead into the Sui-may story also.
of Jeo never shows up Phia will return back to the ship with a lot of resources or something.
Hey man, I get what you’re saying but I feel like I should try and explain myself to look less like a yuts.
I kinda figured Jeo to be a more calculated type of jerk. Like he doesn’t care about other people, unless it’s definitely going to result in something bad to himself. And I figured he’d still have the condition and consider Phia a strong enough influence on the other girls, that she’d be able to get most if not all of them to leave. Giving him no way to heal himself, and making him more vulnerable. Which might be a big enough loss for him to make the detour.
Using Roy though is definately a better call, less characters doing more things is way better than a bunch of characters doing one or two scenes. I was stuck thinking of sex martial arts and thought “Well you always need a master guy in martial arts stuff!”
Also I originally made this sidequest to try and expand Phia’s slutty personality past just liking fucking. And since she fight’s by fucking, I started thinking of a sex type martial art she could have and what philosophy’s it would be based around. (Like sex is this universal joy everyone should experience and she wants to share that with everyone she can.) I also figured it could go with a few lines other characters mention. Like Arielle saying that Phia always shows up when she needs release. If Phia isnt just a slut but trained to know sex inside and out and can tell people’s sex drives just by looking at them.
I definitely should’ve mentioned that clearer or asked more about that since I have no clue about Phia’s backstory.
Also now that I see some of your other posts I realize my Bri one is SUPER off and I’m embarrassed and shit now.
Don’t worry, man. It’s good to throw ideas around. 🙂 And it’s good that Vortex explained the characters a bit because I understand them better now too.
I didn’t read the Bri yet in detail but I skimmed over it. Keep in mind Jeo can’t just casually go places they are all criminals with all of GemCo looking for them.
Not sure you understand the Jeo I am trying to create. He would kill them all if it helped is plan and not care about it. even Ari. He will find another way to deal with his weakness. It is why everyone is trying to get to this guy since they all think he tried to attack Lynn. They know what he is capable of.
I don’t want this is be obvious a first, but as you play through the game, the player realizes this more and more. Jeo would simply kill or put Phia in containment before letting her parade around the ship trying to do something that would result in him being weakened. While Arielle would try to keep the peace. So idk about that story as it is. we may need to think about it bit more. I would rather not have it go down like that heh. So Phia needs to not be threatening him at the start. Or maybe she does learn the hard way. idk.
as for Phia’s backstory, It is pretty well established Phia likes sex so in these type opportunities I’d be more interested in exploring some other things about her. her loyalty to friends and family and her superior sniper skills. she uses erotic fighting tactics when necessary but I wouldn’t say the fights with sex. She she would take sniping anyone from far away over try to sex them at a close range. It is mentioned in her Dossier about her sniper abilities.
It is debatable if Phia could convince all girls to stop sexing him or even leave just because he doesn’t go with her during a distress call. especially to convince Arielle. She is going to see this through since Jeo claims to be innocent. Tiffany is non threatened by Jeo at all and would defer to judgement that Jeo is required to be in top health for any of them to survive. TT also knows some things the player doesn’t yet know about. and I think Bri would stay with Arielle and TT over sex crazy rapey Phia any day.
I’ll just say that if the Phia one was out of line, then the Bri one is basically clown shoes…
Though before I try any more, is there any thing in particular that Jeo wants besides clearing his name? Because if he doesn’t care about the girls at all, then I have a hard time thinking of things that he’d willingly take a detour for. Like, if one of the girls mentioned something off their path that could help them out, would he be willing to go for it? Or is the mission too important?
Good info! That helps a lot too.
I don’t think Jeo needs to agree to anything any of them want, that is what I’m saying. because the result is the same either way, but keeps Jeo in character. Jeo will say no and the girl will leave, and the player can choose to have Jeo pursue her or not.
Jeo is trying to clear his name but also steal w/e Natan has been working on, and a take out a few GemCo execs and a few other things that will get him more power. Might even have him target Bri after she get more powerful or something. Anything where Jeo can get more power, or is on his kill list, is what he will detour for. but the problem is none of the girls would know about it aside from Phia. since the argument can be made, and evidence is shown that she did some digging on him earlier before they went looking for him, and has put 2 and 2 together by observing him closely. Phia is a special tactics sniper, so she is well informed about her targets. which at the time during the search was Jeo. Phia however would also not reveal to Jeo that she knows anything about his motives for her own safety of course.
Arielle might know this also deep down, but she would never admit it because she doesn’t want to believe it.
i would love to see more sex scenes with remi, i loved her/his threesome
I haven’t thoguht about anything for Remi quite yet. I know she has been doing research into the side effects of the saboteur Khalei Bri harnesses before meeting Jeo. She might ask Bri about some stuff and Ask Jeo about stuff to get things started.
Damn, I haven’t had time to write these up with dialogue and flesh them out yet. But here’s some suggestions so far. I really really liked some ideas Vortex had in a comment on ‘upcoming aria changes’ so I’ve tried to use them! They were excellent!
1. First addition is the obvious one – rape/’defeat’ scenes for the other enemy agents when Jeo defeats them (or Remi as an extra alternative for the futa lovers). Maybe throw a yuri option in there later (if Phia wins, say?) but I’m not a huge fan of futa or yuri and they are not as popular as good old straight sex. 🙂
This includes an option not to let Yui go after you defeat her. Alternatively, add a side quest where you take on Yui again, maybe along with her husband(? – did I remember that right?)
2. H scenes with the rest of the girls that you unlock through side quests (like Mass Effect 2 and 3 basically).
Side quest ideas!!:
TT – TT has picked up strange readings from a nearby planet (could change to a deserted space station sending out a distress signal or something else). TT needs you to investigate with her. Jeo and TT check it out and find it was an old secret science mission that disappeared. They were doing secret research into quantum shielding or something. Vortex suggested a special power for Jeo’s ship which sounds great! TT would have to install and look after it. Make it a special weapon or shield doesn’t really matter. Anyway, to get the technology Jeo and TT have to defeat the scientists who disappeared and got turned into zombies/taken over by alien parasites/lost their minds for reasons unknown (bit like Event Horizon maybe?)/whatever!
If they lose, TT gets killed or screwed… If they win, they get the special technology!
Bri – Bri has heard of an ancient artefact that will increase her psychic powers. She has been doing research of ancient alien texts/weird religious cults that seem to have had information about the artefact and knew a bit about how to use it. TT has helped Bri get a lead on where the artefact is. TT (and a shy Bri) ask Jeo to help follow the lead. They go check out the lead. They secretly meet with someone on a Gemco space base/space station (or just a city somewhere). He says he has heard about the artefact and will tell them about it – for the right price. It would be up to Vortex how much gameplay and what sort he wants but it could be like an adventure, where Jeo and Bri have to go around the city investigating the artefact and find out where it is. It could be you have to attack a Gemco facility or a black market dealer to retrieve the artefact. Or both! I also had the idea you had to go to a strange planet where the artefact was hidden in an ancient temple. Doesn’t really matter, as long as the side quests have lots of variety! Anyway, if Jeo and Bri win they get the artefact and Bri gets more powerful! If they lose, Bri gets killed or screwed (by enemy agents or an alien on the planet, depending on which plot was chosen).
1. these sex scenes for other agent will probably be this quest stuff. I don’t want to have it where Jeo is immediately able to bang the agent right after the battle. it is assumed or maybe I will have to make a small scene showing the agent zooming away in their ship. Agents like Yui, Kim, etc show up in the BG in the current ending so making it possible to keep them on the ship, forcefully or other wise, requires different endings or i’ll have at least modify it.
2. TT sounds good idk about the end, need to think about it a big more. Another TT quest could unlock the AI robot.
Bri – it would have to be something very interesting that could defeat Bri. she has like that naruto complex where she gets overly powerful from dormant power when she is losing badly in physical combat. Plus Jeo is no pushover either. So maybe that will have to be when one of the alien girls gets created ?
Ok, great comments, thanks.
I did really want ‘defeat scenes’ though! :'( ;p
What if you need to unlock them by having cleared the area beforehand and beating them within a certain time-limit? Or something like that? Make the ‘defeat scenes’ harder to get. And Jeo lets them go afterward.
Or they show up at the end because they were with Jeo?
‘Defeat scenes’ are pretty popular. 🙂
What if you make them part of a big battle near the end? Or they try to stop you at random points of the game near the end or in side quests and you get the opportunity to ‘defeat’ them then?
That way you don’t get them too early on and it fits better in the story?
Anyway, up to you of course. 🙂
I don’t necessarily want something to drive the direction of the game just because something is popular. defeat scenes can be present since they are requested but they don’t need to happen directly after space battles. Jeo is not really horny like that. he’d much rather them just gtfo of the way to he can pass through the area. The idea of them showing up at the end to try again would be a much better reason for him to “defeat” them so they do not become a problem again. I think I can add a chase minigame also that could unlock this after I work on it a bit.
Ok, that sounds great. 😀
It makes the ending a little bit more epic too, I think.
At the end of the day, it’s your game and you have to be true to the story you want to tell. I would do the same. 🙂 But I might still plead for stuff like a little girl and cry when they don’t get added. ;p
You’ve got really clear ideas about the characters and I’ve learned a lot reading the feedback here, so thanks. 🙂
(posted that last bit in case my browser crashes and it gets lost!)
Phia – Phia has heard that an old friend of hers (let’s just call her Sandra for now but her name can be different obviously) has been given command of a new class of GemCo attack ship. Phia really wants to track down Sandra and show her who is the better agent. She needs Jeo’s help to get her past other GemCo ships but she wants to take on the old friend alone! (To prove she’s better, one-on-one). So Jeo fights some of the ships (or you could do it as a raid – Jeo and Phia infiltrate Sandra’s ship so Phia can take her on in a shoot-out). Anyway, there is a showdown between Phia and Sandra with Jeo watching on. Phia and Sandra have dialogue before the shoot-out that reveals Sandra had sex with Phia’s boyfriend when she was just a young Gemco cadet/school student/whatever. Phia had never had sex with her boyfriend and Sandra seduced him. That caused Phia to resolve she wouldn’t save herself for a man anymore and would become so good at sex that no-one could resist her! Anyway, Phia and Sandra fight. Phia can get killed or Jeo can save her and they escape. Alternatively, Phia wins and Jeo gets to have sex with Sandra, maybe a threesome with Phia.
Arielle – Arielle is good at combat and cares about what is right, so I figured her side quest would have her taking on a notorious crime gang or space pirates. (So this would presumably be different to the sidequest Vortex has already been working on for her!) I’m not sure how Arielle gets involved with the gang/pirates. Maybe they come across a pirate attack on a cargo ship and Arielle says they must help? Need some more thought on that. Anyway, Arielle gets Jeo to help save the civilians and drive back the gang. (Maybe Jeo helps because the pirates/gang have a big bounty on the capture of their leader). Anyway, if they win, Jeo gets lots of money and Arielle gets better stats. If they lose, Arielle gets killed and/or screwed by space pirates.
Phia – Well people have expressed concern to use characters already present in the game over new characters, so let’s assume this is Sui-May. That’s not bad idea actually. unlocking new ship skins XD
maybe it has a extra passive ability added to it. In all of these quests Jeo would probably show up at the end or not at all. I’m not sure I want to put Jeo in any minigames at the moment.
perhaps sui-may found a ship but has to pretend to be attacking phia with some goons. so in the shooting mini game you need to shoot everyone else around her to win. then you unlock a different ship for phia and some sui-may scenes or something.
Arielle yes is something like chaotic good but I don’t think she would abandon Jeo to go after random mercs/pirates unless it help Jeo in some major way. even if innocents where thee being killed/hurt. if they had a bounty Jeo or anyone helping him would not be able to cash it in because they are all criminals themselves heh. Yeah lets give this one a bit more thought.
Ok, thanks! I’ll think about it. Maybe if the space pirates had stolen something that might be useful… Hmm… Maybe it’s a GemCo cargo ship full of Khalei, special weapons and resources.
Yeah, I can understand the priority being new characters like Sui-May. I’d like that too. But personally I’d also really like more Bri and TT eventually. And Arielle… And Phia… XD But new characters first is good. 🙂
I’d love some quests for Luma, Riley and Lynn to get in ARIA! I posted some ideas in the forum but I’m not sure if they’re any good…
I posed sidequest ideas for other girls in the forum thread, if anyone wants to look at them and give constructive criticism.
I try to put extra female characters in my suggestions so there are extra chicks to have sex with! 😀
And I forgot to put in Vortex’s idea for Bri that she tries to psychically give Jeo emotions. I like that idea. A good, nice Jeo versus bad, cold Jeo choice near the end of the game might be neat.
I don’t have any positive ideas to volunteer, but I do have negative ones.
1) Nothing that actually involves the death of any of the crewmembers as an outcome; I’m not into necrophilia and that means corpse-crewmembers are totally useless.
2) Nothing that involves a change of Jeo’s personality characteristics: the whole “lightside and darkside paths for Jeo’s personality” idea was already shut out and I’m in agreement with that.
1) Not even if it only happens when you lose a battle? For me, it makes the makes the quests seem like they mean something. If I lost, I’d just reload and try again. I can’t fault your reasoning about dead crewmembers though! 😉
2) Yeah, I got that Vortex had thought about it and wanted to keep Jeo as cold. I’d kind of like the chance to make Jeo good and have some sensual boning with Arielle (or someone else) but I can see the other side of it too. 🙂
Certainly not even if it only happens when you lose a battle.
My preferences on that score are probably linked to my being into defeat scenes but not into guro/snuff.
Quests can still have dramatic tension of some kind and thus “mean something” if you just can’t retry them after you fail, for whatever reason.
That reason doesn’t have to be “because you permanently lost your crew member.”
*shrugs*
I’m not denying the validity of death as a dramatic device.
I’m just not remotely interested in it in my porn games.
All of my games are story driven so I use devices that help drive stories. sexable characters die in other games I have made also. also keep in mind the game in still being developed, no ideas are shut out. some things are very unlikely thoguh.
not going to get too deep into this because i don’t expect everyone to like this game, but all this character dieing business is not about giving the quests drama. It is about shaping Jeo into more of a cold hearted bastard. Stressing that he really uses the characters for the moment, but if they die has no concern at all. They are not forced to die, it is a optional outcome as part of certain quests, not all of them. it what we are trying to figure out right now. But if you don’t want them to die, then don’t let them die. it is simple. I want these alternate experiences in the game for others though. even myself.
also I’m trying to see where are you getting guro, snuff, and necrophilia from. it was not mentioned from what I can tell.
Snuff from their deaths
Guro from extremey graphic depictions of their deaths
Necrophilia from the sexual purposes they can serve thereafter.
I don’t plan on getting to graphic with this potential death. they would simply not there anymore. not something like their guts splattered out everywhere. At worst would be some kind of K.O. image/pic, not terribly different from some anime fighting game. and jeo saying something like this was a waste of his time and returning back to the ship. not even bothering to get the corpse in the first place.
I know there was time travel involved, but doesn’t Maiko die in the game before UMCC? So you have your dramatic death for story purposes, but its (fortunately) still not necrophilia.
oh well, laugh then if you want. not sure where even got necrophilia from in the first place. I will mention to you again to please chill on the obnoxiously negative attitude you have. I can do without it while new ideas are being tossed around.
Necrophilia comes from the uses Jeo would have for corpse crewmembers.
The hilarity comes from the idea that he might ACTUALLY pick up their corpses for that use.
Though the suggestions were negative, I’m perfectly chill.
I see. I don’t have it worked out fully but it is safe to assume that the girl needs to be alive for him to be able to regenerate his power. It is also safe to assume he is not into having sex with dead people anyway.
why not space zombies^^
My idea of side quests consist of things like nameless (or uninportant named) NPCs hiring any mercenary that they could to do their work with the reward of resources and a minor stat boost to the character you choose to do the work. It would be things like significantly harder fights for the area that you’re in for an appropriate reward (resources/stats/mercenarys), which would be much better for earlier in the game than later. Accessing these little mini-quests would be from the “MAP” and would show up just like other ships or mining areas.
I’d also like to see named NPCs with side quests with them, but others have expressed their ideas on that better than I could XD
wouldn’t sell yourself short on this. The mercenary work idea is pretty good actually simple easy side quests to earn more mercs, money, and/or stat boost. yeah maybe in some areas the map has various zones or something.
Hi again i post here, because i can’t in the other link. Anyway…
I liked wilsonthegreen for phia and JD ideas for TT. I think i already post that idea but i was thinking of “defeating” the male agents by satisfying them with the girls, that can be Phia or Remi Quest.
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As another Side Quest what about a side quest that can make you lose… but is funny to try?
I loved the Luma initial sex idea and what about expanding that? I was thinking for example a Luma/Riley/Lynn Sidequest triying to take the main girls places and take over the ship. To do that they can try to “convince” Jeo by improving his recuperation rate with sex/group sex/whaterver (mini game?)
If you win the side quest your main team changes and Jeo recover better but you lose all the respect and the main girls for battle.
If you lose Luma/Riley/Lynn will stay in the ship and be punished by Jeo and Phia.
Another idea i have is what about not a side quest but a side work game that give the team more resources, like exploring the planets and “taming” the monster/alien girl (or man if you made this a side quest for a girl) and then selling them for resources.
I think Bri needs a main quest too but i don’t sense her powers are used enought, what about a sidequest in which she needs to use them in a minigame and improve her for combat stat?
The quest can be something like her having headaches as they aproach and enemy ship, when they explore the ship they encounter another girl with similar powers engage. The enemy girl attack at firts but Bri eventually convince her to cooperate. The girl tells Jeo and Bri that anothers Failed or abandoned experiment like her were abandoned by Gemco and she needs they help to recover them. Bri insist on helping but Jeo didn´t want to lose time on them. You have to select on leaving pri do the quest or not. You have to follow missed signals and track the girls if you win the quest you have access to a new battle comand for Jeo as the Girls help him with her powers.
I still need to compile all the sex ideas into a single place.
As for the ideas, I thought about something that a while back but I think it would be better to give them their own game instead. Plus Riley and Lynn are not promiscuous. But it would have Cain, Yui, Luma, Lynn and Riley. And maybe even have the player playing as themself as a new recruit or something since most of them are new anyway.
I think if Bri encountered another “Bri”, that Bri would already have died from the effects of the Khalei.
If you read her Dossier in the game it mentions that it would normally destroy anyone trying to use it. They only other person that has it is Maiko from Umichan games heh. so perhaps finding artifacts to sealed containment of power where GemCo tried to lock it away would fit the lore better. perhaps you can decide where bri tries to capture the energy. it can based on her stats. if she is high enough everythign is fine. if she is slightly too low. she will be come normally injured. down to critically injured and died if she is way too low.
You are right, I completely forgot about the bri condition! Then the artifacts is a better idea.
About a future game,Are you planning on doing something like a sim date in a future?
I’d be nice to add some standing, spoons, group positions would be nice, all added with raid boss battles for victory/defeat, some spies and espionage add ins for characters like special agents? Just a wild thought though 😛
Spies and espionage would work because GemCo is trying to find Jeo and Jeo would be trying to get info about GemCo and Natan. So that might work well for the side stories!
I believe Amp has a spoon animation. And by standing you mean like the Goo animation where Jeo picks her up ? Raid boss battles will probably be either shooter minigame or a scrolling shooter bullet hell style game where you need to escape, or both.
The spy stuff would need to be explained in more detail.
I was thinking the standing where one of the girls would be next to a wall standing, I’m sure you get the idea 😉 and the spy stuff could be similar to how there are raid/gather quests, you could infiltrate a base with someone and try to listen to attack plans by the enemy by going through a puzzle or shooter like the raids, but if you fail or get caught there could be consequences, sexual or story related. Such as if a guard drops your hp to 0 there will be a scene with the guard to try and escape, and if the boss gets you, there could be a story changing event/escape scene. If you go the puzzle route, there could be a timed “encrypt” game where you have to solve a puzzle, find an item, etc, if the time runs out you get caught etc.
I was thinking maybe having some sort of events by the local planets. Maybe GemCo is oppressing the local population (like slave labour for some sort of valuable resource the planet has) and they contact Jeo for help or some other character such as Amp (since she hates GemCo) brings it to his attention. Im just gonna put this out there, but originally in my mind you would go to a battle like the space ones, and a one or two circles could be rebels assisting you to defeat the enemy, but I don’t know how hard that would be to code or how getting land vehicles would be explained (unless you are just leading all of the rebel forces against the enemy and using what they have). Another mini game i though of was maybe you infiltrate a compound and free prisoners/assassinate one or more important personal which then frees the local population.
Anyways you succeed and
-you get a bonus to your resources and possibly more mercenaries
Also I was thinking it could be a way you improve your relationship with amp since your helping others agains GemCO
I thought a kind of Bri/Remi hybrid type thing. I’ll try and keep it short.
The setup would be after you send out Bri to talk to Remi and Remi tells her to go get Jeo. On her way back some pirates would ambush her and kidnap her and steal her ship. Remi would see this and rush over to Jeo’s group on her own and tell them what happened. Jeo probably wouldnt trust her but Remi would try and convince him otherwise. (Resources? Sex?)
The pirates were hired by Gemco to kill/bring in Jeo and decided to kidnap Bri and use her like a battery for some super weapon Jeo’s ships couldn’t deal with. (Fleet destroying laser? Big Emp?) Since they can’t handle Jeo on their own.
You’d probably get a few options for how to handle the rescue,
1. Send Remi in for a stealth mission while Jeo distracts them with a space battle
2. #1 but you control Remi in a raid type thing, while the Jeo stuff happens off screen
3. Use Ari’s laser to glass the pirate fleet from orbit (Killing Bri in the process)
4. If respect bar is full enough, or Bri’s stats are high enough. She could simply break herself out with her power.
Rewards
1. TT would examine the pirate super weapon and make a version of it that’s better (and probably less harmful to Bri) which you could use to disable parts of enemy fleets without using resources or going on as many raids.
2. Another mission down the line centered around Remi and Bri?
Interesting… Bri is really strong though so the pirates would have to catch her by surprise or something. I’m having that problem thinking of quest ideas for Riley!
I’m thinking at the moment maybe somehow her power becomes her weakness. Such as she does something really destructive but it leaves her drained and tired, and that’s when she gets kidnapped. Still musing about it…
she has conditions with clones of her. Maybe one is created unknowning on the ship or during a mission with her and Phia.
Phia is Rileys trainer by the way. They both use enhancement Khalei. and their personalities differ greatly because riley doesn’t like casual sex and Phia loves it. in way Phia reminds Riley of Maiko. But Maiko is not very bright heh (at least initially in the story). but Phia and Riley are both super smart.
Excellent, thanks!
I think it might be good for the story that Riley doesn’t like casual sex. That might make any sex scenes with her hard to get and really rewarding. 🙂
And Phia’s and Riley’s intelligence might be useful too. That could be an important point in the set-up for any quests they do (a bit like how you mentioned Phia is a great sniper). I’ll try to think if I can come up with any suggestions using that.
Maybe in Phia’s quest, she has to infiltrate a GemCo facility and assassinate someone important. That way she uses her tactical abilities and sniping.
I don’t even understand why they all need to have sex scenes in the first place tbh.
‘Cause they on yo’ ship, mang. It’s the principle of the thing. Can’t let ’em just get away.
Because they are all super hot and it makes Jeo powerful and dominant. :p
it is not really my objective to make then all sexable just because they are standing there.
Yeah, I understand, Vortex. 🙂 It’s got to fit the story too.
If you make an ARIA 2 where you don’t play as Jeo, I’d probably want Riley and Lynn not to have been banged yet so I could bang them then. 😀
Maybe we could get some soft pron/cheesecake of them though? Anyway, plenty of other stuff to think about.
a few things to consider here. Bri sensed Remi coming and her motives and told Jeo before Remi even got there. Bri would have sense anyone else in the area and also their motives. Hmm having said that, Bri would have insight into Jeo’s motives also. Maybe Bri is someone Phia talked to shortly after arriving on the ship. I would be good to make dialogue scene showing this.
saboteur khalei is highly dangerous to even be around. All of those guys’ ships,lasers, and physical bodies would be slowed down and weakned to the point of death getting too close to Bri. she would have to be sleeping or something to taken off guard. Which makes her “defeat” scene not make much sense (but it is there for fan service, or you can assume she is weakened from losing the battle)
having said that, a scenario like this is good, even if just as opportunity to really explain this. And to really demonstrate why she is a secret weapon. So perhaps she would let herself get captured in hopes of talking them out of trying to capture Jeo. Yeah maybe Remi can try to save her but it is not much to do by the time she gets there.
Vortex, did you ever consider featuring pregnancy somehow? Just for example, Jeo knocks up Yui as an act of revenge against GemCo? Maybe that example is bad because Jeo wants to clear his name. You could make it the wife or girlfriend of an enemy agent, and Jeo gets away without the girl telling on him. Doesn’t matter at this point. Just wanted to get your view on the general topic.
Lots of hentai fans like that sort of thing. I can go with it if it is done well and is not too realistic. I’m totally with you on needing there to be a disconnect.
Anyway, I was just wondering. I had a revenge story idea and thought about putting it in.
I have been considering pregnancy as a failure state in UMCH and it could show a pregnant Maiko or something as the game over. It can’t be in ARIA at all, for more reasons then the disconnect or general distaste for pregnant sex animations.
However I think the even more important factor may people might be missing is that unlike other hentai games, all of the story and characters in my games are connected to other games to make up one large story (except vandread love quest). So the state of the character can’t be disrupted enough where it would effect their appearance in other games later on in the story. unless it is their time to be removed from it. But Yui will be present in Umichan’s Nanako region after the events of ARIA and she would be thrown way off if she was pregnant.
Also another person asked about making ARIA following Luma’s team. And i mentioned it might be better to have it in a separate game. That would also be ruined if Yui was pregnant since she is part of that team. here is my post where I talked about it.
Ok, thanks again for the info! I wasn’t thinking pregnant sex (although that it is a common thing). I thought maybe just as part of the story. But that’s cool. 🙂 I won’t put it in any story suggestions then.
you may not have mentioned pregnant sex, but others will for sure bring it up if there is pregnancy in the game via private messages. happens every time without fail. Plus you have to consider that Jeo jizzes in everyone and none of them get pregnant either.
Vortex, I noticed on my last playthrough that you can get defeat scenes of the girls when you are fighting Amp. But Amp isn’t GemCo, right? So maybe disable the scenes for that area?
Just a suggestion. And it’s fussy, I know. Doesn’t actually bother me at all anyway.
Also, what if Phia loses to her brother? Does GemCo still bang her? Since she likes sex, Roy might let them, I guess.
Perhaps. Idk because then it needs to apply to multiple character as you mentioned.
characters that come to mind are Roy, Remi, Luma, and Amp. I might have a scene play but the character steps in to stop it before it starts.
Q1: Would it be hard to import all assets into another game engine in order to allow ARIA to stay alive?”
A1: not the code nor animations. again, the game needs to be remade completely.
I don’t like renpy. Those games you listed can be made in tyrano in the same way. I all I can say is give people a chance to lean how to to use tyrano effectively as people know how to use renpy.
Q2: Pinoytoons lost his skill?
A2: I said he can’t match his old animations. he has perhaps outgrown them.
Q3: Yes, I think I got it right that you don’t want Jeo to be a cliché charming prince in a shining armor who saves the captive princess on his white horse.
But that doesn’t mean he has to be a despicable jerk, does it?
A3: Understand that the character is not made for everyone to like. Harold and other similar characters are designed to not like also.
Q4. You don’t want the games that you develop to be available on itch.io nor GameJolt?
A4: iirc I said I haven’t posted there yet.
Q5: Is that possible to fail a gameplay as easy as Umichan Maiko Deluxe?”
A5: Again. I don’t plan to modify ARIA in any way. I’m very sorry if this is extremely disappointing. I started different aria games at best.
Q6. What?!? When did I talk about using Bri’s powers?
Rewards- The only ending with a reward to speak is if you keep Bri alive and the bar is full some rewards might be.
…
-More sex scenes where she uses her powers to make it more kinky
7. Oh? Interesting. Then what is Phia’s background story?
It’s will be revealed in later games.
1. Then is the new Unity 3D ARIA game actually a remake of ARIA, not a sequel?
When you skip already read text in TyranoBuilder because you already read it in order to get to where you actually didn’t read yet, TyranoBuilder skips everything even what you didn’t read yet.
TyranoBuilder allows only 5 save points when Ren’Py allows much more in order to really try out every choice.
With Ren’Py, you can rewind by just scrolling up your mouse wheel and everything rewinds, texts, animations, characters, choices, everything.
With TyranoBuilder, you cannot rewind, all that you can do is read previous texts in the log but then you don’t get to see the characters nor the animations again nor go back to previous choices.
Features in TyranoBuilder are way too limited.
Also, controls in Ren’Py are way much more ergonomic.
Saves in TyranoBuilder just casually are erased without any apparent reason because this software is just technically bad.
TyranoBuilder is damn slow, the only other ARIA game that I like beside the original is ARIA Jailbreak because it bridges Amp prologue and ARIA without any inconsistency, everything fits perfectly with Amp prologue and ARIA, but the game is damn slow, the animations take a while between each turn, it would be much more reactive with Ren’Py.
The features in TyranoBuilder, meaning the possibilities that it offers, are way too limited compared to the extended possibilities that Ren’Py offers, people use Ren’Py for creating not only visual novels, this software is so powerful that you can create all kinds of games with it, way much more than TyranoBuilder would allow you to.
Ren’Py allows much more customization, really allowing you to create something unique which doesn’t look like anything else even if you use the exact same software than many others use, every visual novel created with TyranoBuilder look the same, no originality because the software just doesn’t allow much customization as its features are basic.
You can compare TyranoBuilder which is a basic software with Ren’Py which is a limitless software.
What you create with Ren’Py is really how you want it to be in every way.
You could never achieve this with TyranoBuilder.
Now why don’t you like Ren’Py?
Those games I listed could never be made with TyranoBuilder the same way, I can assure you of this fact and I already explained right above why.
It is not about learning how to use the software, it is about what the software can effectively do.
In this regard, TyranoBuilder is way much more limited than Ren’Py whose possibilities are limitless.
You could do much more than you currently can do if you learned to effectively use Ren’Py, if you think otherwise then you don’t realize the difference of capabilities between these 2 softwares.
The only reason why some people chose TyranoBuilder over Ren’Py is because TyranoBuilder doesn’t require any coding from the user.
But you, Vortex00, have experience in coding and you are not scared of using a complicated game engine such as Unity 3D while there are so many easier to use game engines that I listed in my previous post so coding in Ren’Py should be a piece of cake for you as for most of users.
2. Hmm, that doesn’t make any sense, if he had outgrown his previous work then it would mean that he now would be able to do even better.
But what you said is that he wasn’t able to match his previous work, meaning that he wasn’t able to do as well again.
This is why I assumed that he lost his skill if he is no more able to do what he was able to do.
Isn’t that logic?
3. Seems obvious to me as I said that it is not possible to be to the liking of everyone no matter what as personal tastes differ from a person to another.
But no one likes a despicable jerk, do you know any jerk that you appreciate and enjoy to be around?
So what would be the point to create something that no one would like?
I understand that you absolutely don’t want to create a cliché light heroes.
But a dark villain is just as much cliché.
If you don’t want to fall into cliché then creating a plain character is not suitable to your intent.
This is why I pointed that Jeo must not be either good nor bad, he must be more complicated than just stand on a side, otherwise he would be too plain.
In my first post that you didn’t take the time to read carefully, I listed many details that I noticed about Jeo which make me think that he cares more about people than he seems, especially Arielle.
You already have set all the pieces in place in order to create the non-cliché character that you want, you have created Jeo in a way to make him seem to be a selfish prick but with a few slight hints that he is not really how he seems to be, which makes him the complex character that you wanted, nor a light heroes nor a dark villain, rather a dark heroes who stands between 2 opposites instead of a plain character who stands in one side.
Hmm… I feel as if I understand what you create better than you do even though you are the one who creates them.
It is as if you keep changing your mind all of the time, you want something, you create something, then you change your mind, you want something else, so you create something else which doesn’t suit what you already have created.
This is why you generate so many inconsistencies in the story that you tell which ruins the whole story because nothing stands anymore as you keep contradicting yourself.
You tell something, then you tell something else.
This is why I had to choose to consider that ARIO and ARIA The Rookie never happened in order to not ruin ARIA because they contradict ARIA.
Actually, every ARIA game that you created contradict each other so they cannot coexist.
The only game that you created which fits perfectly with ARIA is ARIA Jailbreak and this is why it is the only other ARIA game that I like even though it technically sucks as it is made with cheap TyranoBuilder.
ARIA Jailbreak doesn’t contradict ARIA, it doesn’t generate any inconsistency so it doesn’t ruin ARIA.
I like the story that you tell in ARIA, this is why I reject everything which would ruin this story if I accepted it.
I don’t want ARIA to be ruined.
Oh don’t worry about it, I hate Harold, you achieved your intent!
The event that I am waiting the most from ARIA story is that Jeo finally gets Arielle rid of Harold.
I will not feel good until that happens.
4. Yes, you remember correctly, you didn’t say that you don’t want to post in itch.io, you said that you didn’t do it.
But then the question which comes is why?
Why don’t you post on itch.io?
This is why I asked if you didn’t want to.
My question then makes sense.
5. Indeed you explained that Adobe will stop supporting Macromedia Flash Player in one year so any ARIA improvement would be irrelevant.
But Adobe stopping support Macromedia Flash Player only means that it will not be updated, it doesn’t mean that it will break.
Even if the software is abandoned, it is still usable just the same.
And even if the software is no more downloadable from Adobe website in order to play ARIA, it will be available elsewhere, like every software.
ARIA will just become an abandonware like so many games, it will not die, not a big deal.
Should I give you a list of games still maintained working with abandoned game engines in order to prove you that the abandon of a game engine is no reason to abandon a game working with it?
Or Adobe abandoning Macromedia Flash Player aside, did you abandon the original ARIA?
6. Oh! I get it! You are talking about wilsonthegreen’s Bri’s day off idea!
Well it might be that you misunderstood me, I didn’t suggest to make exactly the day off that he suggested, I said that I really like his idea of day offs and I suggested to implement days off with every girl.
As I said, I would never ask to use Bri’s powers knowing that would hurt her, I am not cruel.
In ARIA, I make Jeo use Bri to gather resources, use Tiffany to cook and use Arielle and Phia for fights.
I make each girl do what she likes and since each girl has her own preferences and skills, this balances perfectly the tasks, no one has to do something that she doesn’t like, you did great in this regard. 🙂
7. Ooooh we will get to know Phia better, I look forward for this!
I like this girl.
Everyone thinks that she is a slut but I see more to her than that.
Just like Jeo, there is more to her than it seems to be.
A person can custom code everything in TyranoBuilder you mentioned. and increase the number of saves to any amount with just a setting. As for too slow, people don’t utilize the preloading effectively. I am learning this stuff now. I’ve also made several minigames and custom made features in tyrano as have other more advanced users. Thanks but I am done discussing tyranobuilder.
“Hmm… I feel as if I understand what you create better than you do even though you are the one who creates them.”
Yet you very clearly don’t. What I have written for Jeo all makes sense. You just don’t like it, and I’m starting not care to respond to your very presumptuous claims. Understand that the things you described are not created in error. They are created that way on purpose whether you accept it or not.
Also you are not the author of anything to claim something in my work didn’t happen. It is very clear to me now that you severely lack understanding about Jeo and Arielle. And by ignoring the other works you will never understand any of it. It doesn’t make sense to you to because you filled in questions you had with your own incorrect assumptions in your initial post.
Jeo “cannot allow himself to show any vulnerability, he has to seem uncaring, insensitive, in order to make sure than no one could possibly realize what he thinks of GemCo deeds.”
completely wrong. No it is not a facade. Clearly Harold and others clearly are already onto what he is up to and/or hate him so there is no reason to pretend.
“Because he is aware that Arielle let Harold to fuck her and that would hurt if he didn’t lock his heart up. Indeed, Jeo has locked his heart up in order to protect himself from pain.
He cannot feel pain if he doesn’t feel anything.
This is why he suppressed his emotions.
And this is why he seems to be an insensitive selfish prick.”
this entire analysis of Jeo this is incorrect.
“Jeo just can’t show any feeling until Harold is dead.”
This is not the reason for his coldness
“But what if his true motivation is to get Arielle rid of Harold because he actually loves her?”
it’s isn’t
“But revenge for what?”
Not revealed yet.
Why does he tell to Arielle: “Don’t worry, your “daddy” is on my hit list.”?
Arielle has to call Harold daddy because Harold likes that kind of kink during sex.
“What Harold has to do with Natan framing him?”
nothing
“What does Jeo wants to have revenge on Harold for?”
Jeo hates Harold for different reason than Natan. Jeo hates a lot of the execs also.
“Couldn’t it be that Jeo wants revenge on Harold for abusing Arielle?”
No, but he realizes it kills two bird with one stone. Killing Harold frees Ari from him in the process.
“Then why is he so cold with her?”
Because he understands the risk he faces. his revenge will probably get him killed so he distances himself from people, especially Ari.
“But no one likes a despicable jerk, do you know any jerk that you appreciate and enjoy to be around?”
The character feels he needs to act this way in order to not hurt people even worse. He is certain he going to die. But doesn’t want anyone to worry about it. He thinks that no one will care if some asshole dies. But they would be torn if a friend dies. Jeo doesn’t want to get too close to people for this reason. Despite what opinion you may have about this. This is how this character thinks. Understand that it’s not about what you think. And that it is a purposely designed character flaw.
“Ari Lover scene appears out of nowhere in the holodesk but this scene doesn’t happen in the main story like every other scenes do. This makes it feel as if it doesn’t actually happen”
it is canon
Looking at it this way hopefully it makes a little more sense to you. And thanks for the feedback but I don’t want to to go back and forth with you about my own characters anymore. I understand what I am writing. If you don’t like it I can live with that.
Alright if you think TyranoBuilder is worth it, then I will change my mind about it when you will learn to effectively use it and show what it is able to do.
I look forward to it.
Do you play ARIA right before developing a new ARIA game?
Did you ever play all ARIA games at once and pay really close attention to every each detail as I did?
Then you would have figured that they really contain many inconsistencies which have nothing to do with my tastes.
Let’s make things clear, you are the one who has created ARIA, so you are the one who has made things the way they are.
All that I point is inconsistencies.
I don’t say “I don’t like this”, “I don’t like that”, I say “This contradicts this”, “That contradicts that”.
I only draw your attention on details which generate inconsistencies in the story that you tell in order for you to fix them so the story that you tell stands.
I don’t recall having requested you to change anything that I disliked in order to be to my liking beside the request that you have granted to reconsider making Arielle lose Jeo because it would have hurt me if you did it and I have expressed you my gratitude when you have granted this request because it means a lot to me.
Everything else that I mentioned is irrelevant to my tastes really, you can check.
I have pointed details about ARIA, even quoted a lot of dialogues just how they are written in ARIA.
I have tried to draw your attention on inconsistencies.
For example, please, go ahead, tell me that the fact that Bri enjoys going to battle in ARIO and that using her powers don’t hurt her while she dislikes when you send her to battle in ARIA and she always comes back injured after using her powers is not an inconsistency, that I just say that because I don’t like it.
Please, go ahead, check every inconsistency that I have tried to draw your attention on and tell me that there is no inconsistency, that I just don’t like it.
If you want me to, I can play every ARIA games again and list every inconsistency that I notice.
Other than that, I have submitted suggestions to improve what you have already done which suit what you have already done.
I have even suggested to use what you have done in other games in order to improve ARIA, which should have shown you that I paid attention to your work and that I thought about how to get it together, not try to make you change your style.
I have also submitted ideas of stories while making sure that they suit everything in ARIA, that they don’t go against anything in ARIA, every each detail fits perfectly, which should have shown you that I really paid attention to ARIA and that I took care of not breaking anything with inconsistency.
You think that I am presumptuous? That I just want to get you to do what I like without caring about what you want to do?
Then I’m going to be presumptuous by saying this:
I am not like the other people who have told you what they wanted you to do with ARIA without making sure that their suggestions suit what you have already done.
Should I also list every inconsistency requested by people in order to prove you that I actually paid attention to your work and took care to make sure that I didn’t suggest anything which wouldn’t suit your work, meaning that I am trying to go your way?
As I said, I have chosen to consider that some things didn’t happen because they are inconsistent with ARIA, not because I don’t like them or anything.
One again, this is irrelevant to my tastes.
For example, Bri enjoying fighting and not being hurt when she uses her powers in ARIO is inconsistent with Bri disliking fighting and being injured after using her powers in ARIA.
And this is only one of many examples which make ARIA and ARIO impossible to coexist.
As I said, if you want me to, I can play every ARIA games again and list every inconsistencies.
This has absolutely nothing to do with my tastes, you are the one who has created Bri unwilling to fight and being injured by her powers, not me.
I just go along with what you have created and reject everything which doesn’t, even if it is made by you.
How is that presumptuous?
This is a proof of loyalty to what you have created.
How is it my fault that you don’t go along with what you have created and contradict yourself?
Ah! Thank you! Jeo doesn’t want that anyone likes him because he knows that what he wants to do is suicidal and he doesn’t want that anyone get wasted if he dies.
Meaning that HE CARES about people!
So I didn’t misunderstand him, he really is more caring that he seems to be, as I noticed. 🙂
Now that I think about it, I should have quoted something else when I tried to make my point:
In the Ari Lover scene, Jeo says to Arielle “What I want to do is suicide anyway, so you better off without me.”.
Damn! I am so stupid! How could I not have thought about it?!?
How could have I not thought that he didn’t want anyone to like him because he didn’t want anyone to suffer from his lost if he failed even though he said to Arielle that she better off without him because his plan is suicide?
Damn, you got me on this, Vortex00, I was wrong about his reasons to close himself off. :-3
But I was right that he is not really the selfish prick that he seems to be, that he cares about people, as I noticed thanks to a few hints that you have scattered in ARIA. 🙂
Hmm… So he is cold because he wants to do something suicidal and he doesn’t want anyone to like him and suffer if he dies.
Does that mean that he will stop being cold once GemCo will be defeated and that he will no more risk to die?
Actually he is more caring than I realized because I thought he locked his heart up in order to protect himself from pain but you made me realize that he is cold not in order to protect himself from pain but in order to protect others from pain as he doesn’t want anyone to like him in order to not suffer from his lost.
You were right, Vortex00, I didn’t understand Jeo as well as I thought, he cares more about people than I realized.
I was also wrong about something else. I thought that he wanted to kill Harold for Arielle’s sake. Then you hinted that Jeo has another reason to kill him, to take revenge for something which has not be revealed yet.
That means that there is more to Jeo and Harold backstory than I thought.
Now I look forward to discover what Harold did to Jeo to make him want revenge.
I know why Arielle call Harold “daddy”, I played her prologue, I noticed Harold say “Who is your daddy? Say it!” while he fucked her and Arielle answer “You are daddy.” because she absolutely wanted to get his permission to go after Jeo so she pleased him.
My question was not “Why Arielle call Harold “daddy”?”, it was “Why Jeo say to Arielle “Don’t worry, your “daddy” is on my hit list.””.
The actual question was why Jeo tell to Arielle that he wants to kill Harold.
Indeed, as you say, Harold has nothing to do with Natan framing Jeo, this was my point, to demonstrate that Jeo’s motive to kill Harold is not to take revenge about Natan framing him, that his motive is something else.
Jeo realizes that killing Harold kills 2 birds with 1 stone as it frees Ari in the process, meaning that Jeo does want to free Ari even though this is not his first motive.
You say that Jeo especially doesn’t want Ari to suffer, which means that he especially cares about her.
As I said, you wouldn’t have named the scene unlocked by making Jeo to make love to Arielle so much that her charisma reaches over 2000 “Ari Lover” refering to Jeo if Jeo didn’t love Ari.
And you insisted on the fact that this scene is canon, meaning that it is important for the story.
Meaning that Jeo being Ari lover, Jeo loving Ari, is important for the story.
““But no one likes a despicable jerk, do you know any jerk that you appreciate and enjoy to be around?”
The character feels he needs to act this way in order to not hurt people even worse. He is certain he going to die. But doesn’t want anyone to worry about it. He thinks that no one will care if some asshole dies. But they would be torn if a friend dies. Jeo doesn’t want to get too close to people for this reason. Despite what opinion you may have about this. This is how this character thinks. Understand that it’s not about what you think. And that it is a purposely designed character flaw.”
So Jeo is not really the despicable jerk that he wants everyone think he is as he acts this way in order to prevent anyone to suffer from his lost if he fails, meaning that he acts this way for others’ sake, so I was right that there is more to him that there seems to be.
Arielle knows it as she said “He is not a bad person deep down, I just know it.”.
Bri might have sensed this, as I have demonstrated previously.
And Phia might have understood it as she is the cleverest of Jeo’s team, Tiffany even acknowledged it as she told to Jeo “Phia hides her intelligence behind her sexual appetite.”.
So I was right that Jeo is not really the asshole that he wants everyone think he is as he acts this way for others’ sake but I was also wrong that he pretends to not care to make sure that no one would think that he wants to take GemCo down as the truth is that he wants that no one likes him to make sure that no one will care if he dies in his attempt to take GemCo down.
As I said, I didn’t realize how much he cares about others. I thought that he acts the way he acts for his own sake whereas he actually acts the way he acts for others’ sake.
He really is the dark heroes that I thought he was even though I didn’t understand him as well as I thought.
I am glad that I talked with you, Vortex00, now I understand Jeo better, thank you. 🙂
I have been thinking.
I understand why you got annoyed at me and why I have indeed been presumptuous now that I think more about it.
I also realize that it was a mistake to consider that some of your works never happened because they contain inconsistencies.
They are indeed useful as they make us learn more about the khalei world.
I made a terrible a mistake, I shouldn’t have said “They contradict each other so they cannot coexist.”, I should have said “Hey Vortex00, I have noticed inconsistencies in your works which make them contradict each other so what if I help you to find them so you can fix them and make everything get along?”.
I apologize for having reacted in a wrong way, reject everything which is inconsistent instead of helping you to fix the inconsistencies.
I really have been presumptuous, sorry.
Now that I have realized my mistake, I am going to fix it right away and say now what I should have said from the beginning:
Hey Vortex00! I have noticed inconsistencies in your works which make them contradict each other and not get along so how about I help you to find them so you can fix them and make everything get along? 🙂
the crazy part is, you don’t even realize that all information you claim is inconsistent is stuff that you completely made up and/or assume incorrectly.
Vortex00 
My brain is fried from thinking so much, hopefully others can come up with some side quest. And guys keep it on there character. You can tell there persona by the bio of the game. If anything cross my mind I’ll write something, as of now nothing. Because the main points have started to patch itself.
I haven’t played all of UMCC so I could especially use help on making sure my ideas don’t clash with those. Hope you can give some feedback or ideas. I’m really looking forward to Vortex adding side quests and I hope people can get lots of good suggestions going. 🙂
Hmmmm, well for Phia something just snapped together in my head.
Maybe at a certain point Phia get’s a distress call from someone important to her and you can get the choice to help her out or not.
“Jeo hey I know were busy but I need your help over on this planet! (Give an actual name, I’m no good at naming stuff)”
“Phia we’re really busy-”
“Yeah I know but this is important! Someone important might die!”
“Yes… but we have-”
“Look if you don’t help I’m not fucking you and neither is anyone else on this ship, weird disease or no!”
“Phia….”
“Don’t you think I can’t do it! I’m the only one that’s into this shit, I can convince the others if I try!’
“…..”
Choice is presented, saying no might decrease everyone’s obey and slow it from filling back up. If yes then continue on.
Phia then explains that the person in trouble is the first guy she had sex with, whose this sex guru/master guy that showed her the joys of fucking and taught her all her sex skills.
You go over to the planet and start searching, eventually finding him in a bar with some ladies.
He explains that the distress signal was a lie and he was just worried about Phia following Jeo, (I figure Jeo has a reputation for being a cold bastard and he wouldn’t want Phia getting hurt or anything.)
Phia would start arguing with him, maybe something like this?
P “Master, Jeo’s fine. He’s smart, fights hard, good sized dick-”
Ma “Wait a minute you fucked this guy?!”
P “Well… yeah why not?”
Ma “Look at him, his circles are completely closed off. He can barely get himself off let alone a woman.”
P “His circles are closed but he can make up for it with his physical skills alone…”
Ma “You’ve been away too long Phia… you’ve forgotten what a good fuck is havent you?…”
J “Look I don’t give a shit about your circles or whatever, but don’t go-”
Ma “Exactly! Without care for your or your partners circles there’s no way you could satisfy anyone but yourself.”
J “I can get off any woman just fine….”
Ma “Show me….”
J “What?”
Ma “I’ll believe you if you can prove it, hell I’ll even show you something special if you do well enough.”
J “Right here?”
Ma “You scared?”
J “Fuck no…. Phia come over here…”
P “Mmmm sure thing stud…”
Ma “I’m setting the timer here, you have two minutes. In order to get her off in that time, you’ll need to open up your circles and read exactly what she wants…”
J “Two minutes? Easy…”
(Not sure exactly what would happen here, maybe a mini game or sorts? I figured it might be kind of like a scene viewer with all of Phia’s scenes but you would need to follow minor clues to pick the right order to get her off in time. Maybe like Phia’s whispering in the speakers that gradually gets louder the closer you get to the end)
If success then,
J “There you ready to shut up now?”
Ma “I suppose I am, I didn’t expect you to actually open up like that.”
J “Opening up had nothing to do with it, it’s just common sense.”
Ma “Sure kid… but let me sharpen that “common sense” of yours a bit…”
(Insert time lapse here)
Ma “There, by following those instructions you’ll have a much easier time reading women and what they need…”
J “Not bad old man…. I guess coming here wasn’t a complete waste of time… thanks I guess.”
Ma “I didn’t tell you for YOU! You’re just as much a bastard as I’ve heard, so I figured with this at least the women stuck with you could have a little fun.”
J “Whatever…. let’s get out of here Phia
P “MmmmmMmmmm yes sir….”
The rewards for this could be a bunch of stuff, here’s a few I thought up
1. Sex doesn’t max out tiredness anymore
2. Sex raises obey and respect? for all girls, (More in the case of Phia)
3. More scenes with girls, (Possibly unlock future groupsex scenes or other stuff)
4. Girls less likely to refuse sex, even if obey/respect is low.
5. Able to chose sex animations (Even stuff not normally used in normal animation like punishment)
6. Phia won’t disobey Jeo anymore
It could be any number of these or a mix of them. This is probably a really long post, so I’ll just cut it off here. Hope something here is usable.
Interesting. 🙂
Personally, I wouldn’t like competition with Jeo. I figure he’s the ‘avatar’ for the player and for empowerment fantasy. Those chicks are mine, dammit! Umm… *cough*
My own idea for Phia’s sidequest is that she hears from an old friend/enemy (or ‘frenemy’ as the cool kids say). Phia hates her because she stole her boyfriend by being hot and sexy, and that was the origin of Phia being a slut (maybe). She wanted to be like her firend who betrayed her.
Anyway, good stuff! I’ll be posting some of my ideas shortly, so feel free to give feedback and suggest additions, changes! The more ideas for Vortex the better, I reckon! 😀
(Apologies for double post)
Except you have Jeo prove he’s better so what I said is kind of off. 🙂
(Darn, no edit button)
I forgot to ask if you have ideas for any other characters. 🙂
Thanks man,
I got an extra one for Bri just now
Bri’s day off-
At a certain point in the story Bri’s powers stop working completely. (No flashes, flares or anything) She goes to tell the rest of the crew what happened and everybody has a different suggestion for what to do.
Phia- You lost your power?
Bri- Un-hum
P- Like all of them?
Bri- *nods*
P- Hmmmm getting back powers…. have you tried eating sugar upside down? Or was that drinking water….
Arielle- It’s not like the hiccups Phia, this is serious!
P- Hey I’m just trained to kill these types, I’ve never had to like, get their powers back.
A- You’re probably just tired and need some rest bri…
TT- It may be more serious than that. I have some medicine from used by Kha’lel users to stabilize their energies. They may help out.
Bri- I can try more meditation techniques too, they used to work out for problems like this in training…
P- Or… you could fuck some more!
A- Phia…
P- What? Maybe she’s too tense and needs to unwind a bit…
TT- It’s your call Jeo, what do you think?
Here you get the choice of who’s advice to take. The only real change between the choices I can think of is that the person you agree with gets extra respect/obey and if you decide to fuck Bri there’d be hentai and Arielle would probably disapprove.
Fucking Bri dialogue
Ari- …..I can’t believe you Jeo
Jeo- What? She’s tense and I wanted to get off anyway.
A- She’s probably sick you shouldn’t be forcing her like this!
J- You’re the only one upset here.
Bri- *Moaning*
T- Theoretically it COULD work… I still want to run tests on her afterward to see if I can find anything else.
P- Fuck yeah Jeo! Dump that load into her!
A- *Sigh*
Time lapse later, where you find out none of the options could have worked but TT found something while examining Bri
TT- I figured out the problem, it turns out Phia was right…. sort of.
A- What?!
P-Ha!
J- So what? I need to fuck her more?
T- Not exactly… see her stress rate is much higher than a normal woman’s at her age.
P- So? We’re stressed too and we’re still ok.
T- We’re trained to handle the pressures of combat, Bri not so much and besides Bri’s power relies much more on mental stability than us. So it’s natural that her powers would short out like this.
J- And the solution is?
T- She needs to get away from combat for a while… just being in this ship is a constant reminder of the danger she’s in. A mini vacation should get her right up to speed.
J- ….. Alright then let’s drop her off somewhere and pick her up later when she’s better.
T- I wouldn’t suggest that!
J- …Why not?
T- Bri’s been seen with us and in case you’ve forgotten we’re a bit wanted right now. Without her power’s she’d be a sitting duck, she needs an escort to protect her.
J- Alright then who’s going?
T- I need to stay here and work on some vital repairs.
P- Well I’d go, but I’d just end up fucking her and you’d probably reprimand me or something about that.
A- I’m sorry Bri, I’d love to go but the main gun really needs my attention…
*Everyone looks at Jeo*
J- What?! No! I’m the commander here I’m not going!
T- You seem like the only viable option here Jeo…
J- How about Remi?
B- Please not Remi!
T- Jeo it should only take a day, you’ll be fine…
J- ……..fine.
Time lapse to Bri and Jeo arriving at Willy Wonder’s wacky world theme park.
J- You’ve got to be fucking kidding me…
B- TT asked me where I thought would be fun so I picked this place…
J- ….
B- Is this ok?
Choice
(There’s alot of worse places you could’ve picked…)
(Let’s just get this over with…)
I figured this section could have a threshold of points called Bri’s relaxing or something. And the choices you make that are closer to what Bri likes raise it and the ones she doesn’t like make it go down. Depending on where the bar is filled depends on the endings. After this you’d get a choice of various rides and attractions to take to try and build up Bri’s relaxation. (I’d put some here, but this may be bullshit you hate so I’ll just put some suggestions without writing them out. If you actually like this I can write some out)
(Also, I think I should mention here that even though it resembles an ordinary dating sim I still fully planned every choice Jeo having making him sound like an unfeeling prick or a bigger unfeeling prick. That’s why I thought it’d be funny : D)
-Teacups
-Rollercoasters
-Those firing ranges to get prizes (Don’t know the actual name)
-hall of mirrors
-Boo! Haunted House
(Extra) Tunnel of Love- If you overfill Bri’s relaxation bar she invites you here.
B- Jeo we could go over here… If you want…
J- Tunnel of Love?
B- I know your not interested in that… but there’s something I wanted to give you there…
J- Alright…
B- You’ve been really nice to me today…
J- I have?
B- Well…. nice for you I mean… I know it’s hard for you to be nice so I thought I’d give you a present…
Blowjob scene, (Sideways to make more sense in context?)
After going on all the choices available, Bri get’s attacked by an enemy agent putting a knife to her throat, Jeo grabs his gun and aims at him. The goon tells Jeo to drop the gun and surrender himself over.
Choice
(Bri’s salvageable, I’ll drop my gun and wait for my next opportunity to fuck him up)
(Bri’s useless without her powers, I’ll just fire through her to get rid of this guy.)
If bottom is picked Bri dies, if the top is chosen with the bar full Bri’s power kicks back in stronger than ever and she fries the guy. If the bar isn’t full when the top is picked, maybe Arielle comes in and saves them or something. But Bri’s powers never kick back in.
Rewards- The only ending with a reward to speak is if you keep Bri alive and the bar is full some rewards might be.
-Enhanced powers in space battle and gathering
-Won’t disobey Jeo anymore
-More sex scenes where she uses her powers to make it more kinky
-enhanced stats in space battles (Frying the guy maybe gave her more confidence?)
-Change battle quotes to be less scarred (More confidence?)
Otherwise Bri would either end up dead or powerless.
Hope something here is usable.
I read this and it was really difficult to read past Willy Wonder’s wacky world theme park and teacups lol. if anything they would never leave the ship and be in the virtual reality room. And I can’t see Jeo helping with any of this. it starts off good thoguh. Actually Remi would have the most insight into Bri in this case sine she studies saboteur khalei. Maybe Bri gets headache or something instead of loose her powers randomly. let me think about this a bit.
Greetings!
I have thought of another story for Phia that I wished to submit.
For starters, I have thought about improving the dating sim trait of ARIA by implementing a system in which girls increasingly open up to Jeo if Jeo treats them well, which makes their interest toward Jeo increase.
(By the way, I’m playing ARIA v2.8.)
I also have thought that it would make ARIA nicer if a relationship stat was implemented beside the respect stat (I don’t even get why there is a respect stat as it has no effect on the girls behavior so in my opinion it could just be removed as it is pointless.) because girls might respect Jeo, they don’t necessarily actually love him and I don’t know about you guys but I am a romantic pervert (I wouldn’t have found and felt in love with ARIA if I was not looking for nice adult games, would I. ;-3), I enjoy passionate sex but I like it more when it has emotion in it and I noticed some details in ARIA which hint that Jeo is not actually really the selfish prick that he wants to seem to be…
Anyway, as I said, I do enjoy passionate sex but I enjoy it more with emotions than insensitive soulless fuck.
So in this regard, I think that ARIA would be even better if a relationship system is implemented and make the girls really fall in love for Jeo if he is nice to them.
Is Jeo nice to the girls, that depends on how the player wants him to be since after all it is the player who is in control of Jeo and so Jeo is the way the player wants him to be.
And how to do that, will you ask?
By making the talk task in girls’ free time actually meaningful.
Because I think that, as for now, the talk task is a good idea as it offers to the player the possibility to make Jeo care about people since this task allows the player to make Jeo to actually take time to get to know the girls better even though it is not necessary for the mission, which is one hint that Jeo cares more about people than he wants to show by the way, but unfortunately really poorly exploited in its current state as the girls say meaningless things to Jeo when he takes time to talk with them and Jeo doesn’t get to answer.
I think that ARIA would be better with actual meaningful optional dialogues with each girl.
And when I say dialogues, I do mean dialogues, meaning that Jeo gets to answer.
You know where I am going with that, don’t you?
Yes, just like visual novels and dating sims, the girls’ feelings toward the main character evolve depending on how he treat them.
In ARIA, it would be that if the player never bothers to talk to girls, then they will not open to him and their relationships will stay professional, no feeling.
If the player wants to make Jeo care about the girls, then he will take time to talk to them to get to know them better and how the girls feel about Jeo will depend on how he treats them, meaning how he reacts to what they tell him.
Of course, Jeo’s reactions will be the player’s choices.
And talking to the girls is an optional task so Jeo will talk to them only if the player wants him to.
So if the player doesn’t give a flip about the girls’ feelings then he might play the whole ARIA without ever bothering talking to the girls.
Actually you know what, Vortex00?
Don’t add a relationship stat, don’t draw the player’s attention to a hint that something might happen if he makes Jeo to care about the girls because then it would be pointless if the player plays caring only to get reward, don’t hint anything, make it a hidden stat and see if the player makes Jeo to care just because he wants Jeo to care or if he is fine with the selfish prick attitude.
If the player wants Jeo to actually care about the girls, makes him to take time for them, to listen to what they have to say, to care about how they feel, to satisfy their needs and wishes of all kinds, to pay attention to their well-being, then the girls will gradually become more and more interested in Jeo and open to him, granting optional scenes with them to make them grow closer to Jeo and have stronger and deeper feelings for him.
I really would like that to be implemented in ARIA which is already a great game that I enjoy a lot but that I think would be even more awesome with that! 😀
I am aware that you currently are busy with the new Unity 3D ARIA 3D tactical space battle whom I watched the gameplay that you presented and made me want to play it when it is achieved but if you could find some time to make ARIA an even more enjoyable game before we get to play the new ARIA game then it would be awesome! 😀
By the way, did you ever think about selling ARIA DRM-free in the Humble Storein itch.io store?
If you don’t know them yet then here they are:
https://www.humblebundle.com/store
https://itch.io/
Yes, I know right, you never wanted to sell the games that you develop because you are happy to share them with everyone and you don’t want that people have to pay for playing them.
And this is exactly why I suggested the Humble Store and itch.io precisely! 😉
Because of their pay-what-you-want system which allows people to choose on their own what they want to pay according to how much they can afford and how much they want to reward you.
I cannot afford to patreon you as I cannot afford to give a constant donation but I enjoyed ARIA so much that I would gladly reward you for your efforts by buying it DRM-free in the Humble Store or in itch.io store, even if you give it for free, just for letting you know how much I like what you do. 😉
Ah, also, please make sure to provide Linux version in order to not being accomplice with Microsoft’s and Apple’s dictatorships, let people be free to choose with which OS they want to play, thanks. 😉
Anyway, let me know if ARIA becomes buyable in the Humble Store or/and in itch.io store, I think I would give 10€ for it as I think it deserves as much. 🙂
I know that you will keep offering free versions as money was never your motive, which makes you a better creator than most who are motivated by greed, but even though, as I said, I enjoyed ARIA so much that I want to reward your efforts in it so I will gladly buy it even if it is available free. 😉
Okay, let’s get back to suggestions for making ARIA an even better game.
Another thing which might and should have an effect on the girls’ behavior with Jeo is if he does what they suggest to him in their messages, showing that he cares about what they say instead of just doing things his way and not care about the girls’ advises.
Indeed, the girls send messages to Jeo but whether he follows their advises or not has currently no effect on their behavior toward him, it only grants optional scenes, which is nice, but doesn’t make any difference with the girls.
I think this is unfortunate as they should be happy that Jeo cares about what they say.
Also, I think that having sex with the 4 girls is a boring task as it gets quickly repetitive.
I mean, all that I have to do as a player is to watch and click on “Next.”.
Is that what you call a gameplay?
I mean, come on, Vortex00, you made Umichan Maiko because you thought that hentai games lacked gameplay, it was always about watching and clicking next, so you wanted to raise the bar, to offer an actual game, is what you said was your motivation when you developed Umichan Maiko.
And you did succeed to make a hentai game with an actual gameplay.
So why didn’t you use this gameplay in the hentai scenes in ARIA?
Why did you make “watch and click next” scenes when yourself thought it was boring?
I think that ARIA would be better if the hentai scenes actually had gameplay.
Don’t make the player be passive and just watch the action, make him actively take part in the heat! 😉
I was thinking that you could implement in ARIA’s hentai scenes the gameplay that you developed in Umichan Maiko Deluxe to make the scenes more interactive, make the player take a bigger part in the heat.
But if you think of another gameplay to make the scenes more entertaining, then please surprise us. ;-3
Also, I think that getting the girls to have sex with Jeo is way too easy, it doesn’t feel rewarding at all because we don’t have to deserve it.
You know what would make ARIA more interesting?
It would be that at first, Phia is the only one who accepts to have sex with Jeo and if we ask to another girl to have sex, she refuses and answers “Ask to Phia instead, she will be absolutely thrilled to obey.”.
Then if Jeo is nice to the girls, they will start to accept to have sex with him but hesitantly at first.
It will be boring sex where the girls will just let Jeo have his way with them but they will be passive, not passionate, they will not try to actively take part in the heat.
Then if they truly fall in love with him, they will become absolutely delighted to have sex with him and will be passionate, more active, will tell to Jeo what they want, just like in Umichan Maiko Deluxe. 😉
Being nice to the girls will grant more positions with each of them as they will gradually tell what they like, making having sex with each girl different than with the others instead of being the same with all as it is currently.
Don’t you think that would make having sex with the girls feel more rewarding and be more interesting? 😉
Also, ARIA lacks of foreplay!
Sex isn’t only about penetration, there is also things to do with hands and mouth.
As I said, ARIA lacks of foreplay!
By the way, please, oh pretty please, get Pinoytoons back to draw the characters arts as the characters art in ARIA is really amazing!
Honest, I don’t like the character arts in other ARIA games, even the ones showcased by the artist who hails from the AAA industry for the new Unity 3D ARIA game.
I honestly think that Pinoytoons was doing better.
Is it possible that Pinoytoons comes back at it?
About the voices, I want to tell that the voice acting made fore ARIA is really nice!
Each voice suits each character well.
Arielle’s voice is kinda military, Phia’ voice is sweet, Tiffany’s voice is confident and Bri’s voice is shy, which suits each character just fine!
So, congratulations for the voice acting. 🙂
That being said, I still noticed a few flaws though.
There seems to be an error which makes the 4 girls sound displeased whenever we ask them to eat or want to talk, even though they look glad and they obey.
I understand that Phia doesn’t like much to talk because that wastes her sex time but why do Arielle, Tiffany and Bri sound displeased when we want to talk to them?
Also, Tiffany is the only one who sounds displeased when we ask her to cook while she is the one who is said to enjoy cooking.
I would think that Phia would be the one who wouldn’t love cooking however she sounds delighted when we ask her to cook.
This is why I think some errors were made in which voice triggers in which task.
Also, I never can get what Phia screams during sex. What does she say?
Also, if you want to make Remi part of the team then please give her a voice because that sounds weird that she is the only one to not speak in the team.
But to be honest, I think that is not a very good idea to make her a part of the team as she unbalances the team.
I mean, she starts with 2000 in every stat, what is the point of adding an overpowered character in a balanced team and unbalance it?
In my opinion, you should just put her with the other special agents, Jeo and Luma team, and not in the main team as she really unbalances it.
Also, why can’t we ask her to support one of the 4 girls in battle?
Why not be able to ask to Luma team to support one of the 4 girls in battle too?
Why Remi and Luma can be sent to battle only as main pilot whereas Jeo can be sent as a support for one of the 4 girls?
And I have an idea about an optional scene with Lynn.
When I witnessed the scene when Lynn is shaken after she has pictured in her head how Bri described she will be raped if she goes to the trap set by Natan, my first instinct was to go to her in order to comfort her.
Unfortunately, she just kept saying the same thing that she always say when Jeo talks to her.
So here is my idea for the optional scene with Lynn that I imagined:
If the player has the same instinct that I had, meaning if he goes to talk to her when she is shaken by Bri’s dream, if it is the first thing that he does after witnessing the scene with Bri, this triggers an optional scene where Jeo finds Lynn crying all by herself and asks her what’s wrong.
She then answers that he already has his own problems and that she doesn’t want to burden him further.
He then answers that his problems are already about her since he is hunted for having supposedly assaulted her so it is in his best interest to make sure of her well-being aboard his ship.
Now since Arielle told to Jeo that Lynn and him have to be close for her to stick up for him, him being him, I assume that Jeo and Lynn are indeed close, which is why I imagine the scene goes on this way:
Lynn asks to Jeo if he really only cares about her well-being for the pragmatic reasons he claims.
Jeo answers “Who knows.” in his usual way.
Then Lynn answers that he can’t do anything about her problem anyway, to which Jeo answers that there is nothing that he can’t do.
Lynn tells then about Bri’s dream and how she got pictured her virginity was forcibly taken from her.
Jeo then answers that the solution to her problem is easy to do.
Lynn answers “Really?”, to which Jeo answers “Really. No one will be able to take your virginity against your will if you already gave it on your free will.”.
Then a hot hentai scene follows in which Lynn gives her virginity to Jeo.
And that would make Arielle telling to Jeo that she saw Lynn with Phia making naughty things with the mercenaries have more sense if that happens after Jeo has made Lynn discover how good sex feels.
Another idea for an optional scene this time with Riley:
After Luma team joins Jeo ship, at some point Phia tells to Jeo that Riley is even more uptight than Ari and asks to Jeo if he wants to double team her to loosen her up.
After Phia told that, you know what was my first instinct.
Yes, I went to Riley right away, imagining that it would grant a scene where Phia and Jeo double team her as Phia suggested.
Unfortunately again, Riley just kept saying the same thing that she always does when I talked to her.
So here is an idea for an optional scene with Riley:
If the player has the same instinct has I have, if he goes to Riley right after Phia suggested to Jeo to double team her, if it is the first thing that he does after Phia told that, then this grants a hentai scene where Jeo joins Phia who is talking naughty to Riley then when Jeo arrives, Phia tells to Riley that she gonna show her what she is missing and she has sex with Jeo in front of Riley in a way to make Riley want to join.
This scene would make perfect use of the Umichan Maiko Deluxe gameplay that I suggested to implement in ARIA as Riley will want to join only if Jeo satisfies Phia’s desires, meaning if the player follows Phia leads just like in Umichan Maiko Deluxe.
Then if the player succeeds with Phia and Riley wants to join, the scene continue with Riley added in.
If the player fails to satisfy Phia, then Riley doesn’t want to join and the scene ends here.
Well, since I am making suggestions, I have some more and since I don’t know where to share them, I might as well do it here.
That doesn’t make any sense that the scene when Amp joins the ship triggers before we get to battle her as a test.
That doesn’t make any sense either that the scene when Luma team also joins the ship before we even go to meet her in space.
I think that some error was made since they trigger at wrong times, you didn’t notice?
Also, the Ari Lover scene appears out of nowhere in the holodesk but this scene doesn’t happen in the main story like every other scenes do.
This makes it feel as if it doesn’t actually happen, the fact that this scene doesn’t automatically triggers when the player fulfills the conditions to grant it like every other optional scene do makes this scene feel as if it doesn’t really happen.
Is it also an error somewhere in the program? Was it supposed to automatically happen when the player fulfills the conditions to grant it?
Please, fully integrate this optional scene in the game events like every other optional scene.
By the way, the conditions for granting this scene is to love Arielle enough to make her charisma grow to over 2000 and to reach area 10.
But thinking about it, I think that this last condition doesn’t fit with the game events.
I mean, when they arrive in area 10, they are greeted by Sire before battling him.
I honestly don’t imagine Jeo and Arielle having deep sex while Sire is waiting for them to be ready to battle.
So I think that the Ari Lover scene cannot trigger upon arriving in area 10.
This is why I suggest to remove the area 10 condition and just trigger this scene when the player makes Jeo to have sex with Arielle upon reaching 2000 in charisma.
Basically, keep the first condition (Make Jeo love Arielle so much that she reaches 2000 in charisma.) and remove the second one (Area 10.) in order to make this scene to trigger at a fitting time. 😉
Still in the holodesk, why is the Roy scene not here even though I sent Phia to talk to him when she requested me to do and the scene happened in the game events?
Is it also an error in the program which makes this scene to not be in the holodesk after it happened in the game events?
Please fix it.
By the way, I don’t get how to have sex with AI without unlocking it in rank battles, which I don’t like because I want to do what it takes to get things, not just getting them as rewards of rank battles.
You explained in the walkthrough that to have sex with Phia as the last task of the day when Luma is in the ship grants sex with Luma and that raiding every Yui’s fleet ship and defeating her as Jeo grants sex with her but there is no mention of what to do in order to be granted sex with AI, I discovered this was possible as a reward of rank battles, but as I said, I don’t like this way of getting things, I want to do what it takes to be granted it.
So what is it? Could you please add it in the walkthrough as you seem to have forgotten it?
Last thing in the holodesk, I unlocked in rank battles a hentai scene where Phia sexually assaults all 3 other girls then it ends with the 3 assaulted girls sexually assaulting her as a revenge.
I read in the walkthrough that this scene happens if Phia’s respect for Jeo is under 50 and if Jeo gives her free time as the last task of the day.
Here is my point:
THAT IS UNFAIR that we don’t get this hot scene if we treat Phia well!
Moreover, you must be kidding right?
Jeo finds 4 girls horny in the kitchen and his reaction is “Go back to work.”?!?
I mean, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT JEO HERE, how come that his first instinct is not to join the fun?!?
You know what I hoped when Jeo arrived?
I hoped that Phia was going to grab him, lay him on the table, then tear his clothes off and request him to fulfill his girls’ needs.
Then the scene continues with Jeo pleasuring all the 4 girls.
One with his dick, another with his mouth and the 2 others with his fingers, you know, since he has 2 hands. ;-3
And you know what would be very fun?
With Umichan Maiko Deluxe gameplay implemented in ARIA hentai scenes, this scene where Jeo pleasures 4 girls simultaneously would be the most challenging in the game since the player would have to follow 4 girls’ leads simultaneously, basically the player would have to pay attention to all the 4 girls simultaneously, which is how it would be in real. :-3
So I suggest that the conditions to grant this hot harem hentai scene would be that Jeo loved all the 4 girls so much that all of them has reached over 2000 in charisma then give Phia free time as the last task of the day. 😉
You redesigned the ships in ARIO and I think that they indeed look nicer.
So could you please replace the current models ships in ARIA by those in ARIO as well since they are nicer?
Okay now that I have shared all of my suggestions which I think would make ARIA even better, let’s talk about Phia’s story. 🙂
As I said, I have thought of a story for her that I wanted to submit.
Phia was raped when she was a teenager, she wanted that never to happen again so she thought that she could never be raped again if she was always willing to have sex.
Indeed, the logic is quite simple, a rape is to have sex with someone against this person’s will.
So if someone is always willing then this person cannot be raped.
This is the conclusion that Phia came to after her rape and this is why she became always willing to have sex.
Even still she is always willing to have sex with anyone, she is especially interested in Jeo.
I know it because I cannot spend a single day without her coming to ask me to stick my dick between her breasts even though she has a whole crew of 2000 mercenaries to keep happy, as she says sometimes.
Also, after I sent her to talk to her brother as she asked me to do and she fucked him, she kept saying to Jeo that “NO ONE can love her like her brother!”.
Until I made Jeo make love to her to prove her wrong.
And guess what? After that, she stopped saying that.
Meaning that she was saying that only to make Jeo to want to prove her wrong.
Meaning that she wanted to be loved by Jeo more than she was by her brother.
Now about Jeo, I need to explain why he is not really the selfish prick that he wants to seem to be.
If you unlocked the Ari Lover scene, then you know that Jeo is aware that Arielle let Harold to fuck her.
He even says to Arielle that he is planning to kill Harold.
He tells her that this will be his way of returning the favor.
But what if his true motivation is to get Arielle rid of Harold because he actually loves her?
Because he tells Arielle that all that he wants is revenge.
But revenge for what?
Why does he tell to Arielle: “Don’t worry, your “daddy” is on my hit list.”?
What Harold has to do with Natan framing him?
What does Jeo wants to have revenge on Harold for?
Couldn’t it be that Jeo wants revenge on Harold for abusing Arielle?
Then why is he so cold with her?
Because he is aware that Arielle let Harold to fuck her and that would hurt if he didn’t lock his heart up.
Indeed, Jeo has locked his heart up in order to protect himself from pain.
He cannot feel pain if he doesn’t feel anything.
This is why he suppressed his emotions.
And this is why he seems to be an insensitive selfish prick.
But if you play ARIA and pay really close attention to Jeo, you will notice a few clues that hint that Jeo actually cares about people but wants to be seen as a selfish prick.
Jeo just can’t show any feeling until Harold is dead.
And I reeeeeeally hope that Jeo will murder Harold, this is the only outcome which would make me feel satisfied.
Bri says that when she looks at Jeo, she sees only darkness.
What is darkness?
The lack of light.
Meaning shadow.
We all know that we can’t see what is in the dark but that doesn’t mean that there is nothing.
Bri is aware of that as she also says that she wants to believe that there is more to Jeo than darkness.
Meaning that she believes that it is possible than there is more to Jeo than what she can see.
But Bri is almost a psychic, she could tell that Jeo was genuine when he told he was framed by Natan.
She could tell if there was nothing inside Jeo, she wouldn’t even wonder.
But she wonders.
Meaning that she doesn’t see anything in Jeo but she is not sure that there is nothing.
She also says that having sex with Jeo feels empty.
Meaning that she can’t feel anything from Jeo.
But pay attention to the fact that she doesn’t say “It is empty.”, she says “It feels empty.”.
Meaning that this is how Jeo makes her feel but still doesn’t make her say that he is empty.
Jeo knows how to hide his feelings.
One more clue that I noticed, still in the Ari Lover scene, when Arielle asks to Jeo why he doesn’t love her, Jeo answers “Because seeing you cry makes me cum harder, that’s what you wanted, right?” as Arielle asked to Jeo to cum hard inside her so she gets pregnant.
Pay attention to the fact that Jeo did what Arielle asked, meaning that he doesn’t disagree with the idea of having a child with Arielle, which is a BIG hint to Jeo’s true feelings.
Then Arielle answers “Then what you said isn’t true?” to which Jeo answers “Who knows.”.
Pay attention to the fact that he didn’t tell that he doesn’t love Arielle, he just doesn’t want to admit it, is all.
And to put the nail on the coffin, why would the scene’s name be “Ari Lover” which obviously refer to Jeo if Jeo didn’t love Ari, hmm?
Another detail, when Jeo fucks Yui, he let her be in control and tells her “Go ahead, you don’t get the satisfaction you need from Cain. He is always too busy guarding Lynn.”.
Does that sound like something a selfish prick would say to you?
If he fucks Yui as a punishment for wasting his time as he pretends, then why does he let her be in control?
Why doesn’t he just do to her what he wants without caring about her?
And why would he even care about her satisfaction if he really didn’t care about people?
That sounds more like a favor that he gives to Yui because he knows that she doesn’t get satisfaction from Cain than a punishment to me.
That sounds caring.
Then after she cums, she let her go.
If his only purpose was to make his way to his objective, then wouldn’t it make more sense to keep Yui as an hostage to make Cain let him pass?
Or if he knows that Cain wouldn’t let him pass even for Yui’s sake, he would hold Yui in cell at least to make sure than she will not get in his way again.
However, he let her go after making her cum.
Does that sound selfish to you?
I don’t think so.
Now about Arielle.
Why the hell does she let a disgusting old fat bastard to fuck her?
Why doesn’t she just quit GemCo and do something else with her life?
Arielle is an admiral’s daughter, we know it because at some point, Tiffany says to Jeo “GemCo must not see you as a real danger otherwise they would not have sent an admiral’s daughter and her newly formed team to track you.”.
I imagine this is the typical story of the military family who has been in the army for generations and that it is unthinkable that a member of the family does something else than being in the army.
This is why Arielle stays in GemCo even though she lives Hell there.
But this is not her true main reason.
Her true main reason to stay at GemCo even though she lives Hell there is that if she leaves GemCo then she will be away from Jeo.
And this thought is unbearable to her, even more than the thought to let Harold abuse her.
We know that because when that bastard Harold informs her that Jeo has turned rogue, she tries to get permission to leave from Sire and when Sire tells her that she may leave if Harold tells him personally that it’s okay, she is so desperate to go after Jeo that she let that bastard Harold (I really hate this guy.) to abuse her, to fuck her, to cum inside her, ugh, so disgusting…
And I am not the only one to think this way as if you pay attention to Arielle’s face while Harold is fucking her, she really looks disgusted, especially when he cums inside her.
Anyway, once she gets permission to leave, Harold warns her that this permission is not official (Then what’s the point?!?) and that she will be seen as rogue by the other agents.
That doesn’t bother Arielle in the slightest, she doesn’t care to become rogue and to fight against the whole GemCo if they get in her way to be with Jeo.
And when they are about to go back to GemCo, in the Ari Lover scene, Arielle tells to Jeo that she never wants to go back and that she wants to just run away with Jeo.
That means that she is ready to leave everything behind her, the army, her military life, her family, nothing matters to her beside Jeo.
She even tells to Jeo that he can take her wherever he wants, meaning that she doesn’t even care where as long as it is with Jeo.
She even abandons her military personality and tells to Jeo that she wants to become a mother, to cook, to clean, to become a housewife in a word.
So you see?
She is ready to radically change her life for Jeo.
Does she not hit you deep in the heart?
Don’t you dream of having a girl who loves you so much that absolutely nothing in the world matters to her beside you?
Anyway, nothing matters to Arielle beside Jeo, she has proved it with everything that she has gone through for Jeo’s sake.
I can also tell that Tiffany is interested in Jeo.
What makes me say that?
Sometimes, she says things to Jeo like:
“You should really let me take samples of your sperm…for scientific reasons of course.” which sounds really suspicious to me.
“Let me know if you need any medical attention.” and we all know what kind of medical attention Jeo needs for his condition.
“Don’t pay attention to the bottom horse, it is in case Phia and me need more thickness.” which I take as a challenge to prove her that they don’t need it.
Also, when she is having sex with Jeo, what does she say?
“This is even better than I predicted!”.
Meaning that she already imagined having sex with Jeo, that she was waiting for this, and that she really enjoys it.
Now about Bri, she looks the youngest but she might actually be the oldest of all.
Tiffany sometimes says “Bri’s underdevelopment is due to the interruption of her growth process.”, meaning that she stopped grow but we don’t actually know how old she really is.
But Arielle sometimes says “Bri looks much younger but at times, she sounds much older.” which means that Bri is wiser than the others despite her looks and her lack of experience in life.
We know that because Bri sometimes says “I didn’t get to see the world until a few years ago.”.
How long has she been in a laboratory?
Long enough to study her and create the Hex agents based on her khalei.
By the way, I like the idea of wilsonthegreen’s to take days off in order to complete optional quests for the girls’ sake.
Votex00, I really think you should implement this days off optional quests in ARIA.
You told that it wouldn’t fit as Jeo is most wanted and so cannot leave the ship.
But you forgot something.
The fact that Jeo turned rogue was kept secret as Harold told that not many people know about it and that he was not even supposed to tell Arielle.
So there is no way that he is most wanted by everyone as not many people know that he is wanted.
Then he can leave his ship and go wherever he wants as long as he doesn’t meet the special agents sent to capture him.
And how would his hunters know where he is as his ship has a stealth system?
Then he can stop by wherever he wants, there is no problem.
So please consider implementing the days off optional quests for each girl in order to improve the dating sim trait of ARIA. 🙂
By the way, you still are reading suggestions even though the last which was posted here is 3 years ago, right, Vortex00?
@maximemartyr
Many thanks for the feedback.
I skimmed a lot and went to the bottom. So i guess the answer to your last question is no. but I tried to skim through as much as I could.
I will try to answer the main stuff, and it should fit as a response to mostly all of it at least.
1. ARIA was made in flash actionscript2. All flash games will not be playable in a year or so since adobe is ending support. Any effort I spend adding, fixing or modifying anything to this game would be irrelevant very soon.
2. Pinoytoons is working on other stuff and barely even has time to do art for that. so it is not possible. I haven’t mentioned this before but I actually had him try to add standing idle animations to ARIA and it didn’t even come close to matching his original work. So even he can’t do it. Plus I quite like the new art, liking one style of art more than another is subjective.
3. I don’t plan on making Jeo a romantic. Maybe in a prequel at best. The intent of the design was to make the exact opposite of the typical beta protagonist. However as you noticed Jeo has a few layers to his personality. The complexity is intended. The same complexity is intended for other character also, especially Arielle.
4. Thanks, I am familiar with itch.io, gamejolt and other sites. I just haven’t posted anything there yet.
5. Understand that the gameplay in ARIA is in the space battles. You “watch and click next” in the sex because that is not part of the gameplay. I wanted to separate gameplay and sex so people can appreciate the animations without worrying about failing some minigame.
6. Bri using her using her power would kill people, not make sex more kinky.
7. Phia has a background story already and it doesn’t involve any rape.
If there is something I missed that is not covered here please copy and paste it again separately and please try to make it brief. Things you mentioned like optional quests is covered in #1. I think the bulk of it is also.
I am not in a hurry, you can take your time to read carefully my ideas and answer to each of them.
I appreciate that you reacted so fast, but you don’t have to answer right away.
I prefer that you take time to actually read and answer when you can than to skim through and don’t pay actual attention to what I suggest.
I mean, I took a lot of my time to share all of the ideas that ARIA inspired me so I would appreciate that you take the time to properly consider them.
I know right that you are busy with your new Unity 3D ARIA game, I am aware of this fact, I’m not saying that you have nothing else to do with your time than to read suggestions, I wouldn’t like to be misunderstood.
This is why I say that I am not in a hurry, it is not as if I need that you answer right away and as I also said, I would rather you take time to pay actual attention when you can than just skim through and answer in a way which makes me feel as if you don’t give a shit to what I say.
So answer when you actually can take time to do please.
1. Would it be hard to import all assets into another game engine in order to allow ARIA to stay alive?
Preferably a multi-platforms game engine which allows games to be developed and played with any OS in order to not limit the compatibility of games.
How about these which are free, multi-platforms and renown for making games development an easier task?
https://gdevelop-app.com/
https://moaiwebsite.github.io/
https://godotengine.org/
http://www.gameplay3d.io/
http://www.garagegames.com/products/torque-2d
http://www.garagegames.com/products/torque-3d
http://orx-project.org/about
http://superpowers-html5.com/index.en.html
https://playcanvas.com/
http://jmonkeyengine.org/
https://www.panda3d.org/
And since I am at it, I really wanted to tell you about something.
For your visual novels, you use TyranoBuilder.
Well… How to say it?
Alright I’m just going to be honest.
TyranoBuilder sucks!
It just sucks.
I know this visual novel software and I can tell that it sucks.
Every visual novel that I read which was made with this software was a pain to go through.
So I assume that you use it because you don’t know the most loved visual novel software which is used by almost all hobbyist visual novels writers.
Actually it is even used for more and more commercial visual novels too.
Which tells how great it is!
This awesome visual novel software, here it is: https://www.renpy.org/
And if you need to be convinced that you would make better visual novels with it, then here are a few examples of visual novels made with it to give you a taste of what you could do with it:
https://teamsalvato.itch.io/ddlc
https://kaleidofish.itch.io/the-mishka-effect
https://goldengamebarn.itch.io/regeria-hope-episode-1
https://nomnomnami.itch.io/her-tears-were-my-light
https://nomnomnami.itch.io/syrup-and-the-ultimate-sweet
Okay, that should be enough examples to convince you that your visual novels would be better made with this software.
My motive for wanting to convince you is that I would like for your creations to be the best that you can do and in that regard, I suggest the best softwares that I know which I know would allow you to do even better than you currently can do because of the limits of the softwares that you currently use.
I hope that you do understand my motives here?
2. Oh? Pinoytoons lost his skill?
What a shame, the characters that he drawn for ARIA are really nice!
That is…really sad that he is not able to do as well anymore…
I wonder why he lost his skill…
Indeed, you’re absolutely right, liking one style more than another is really a matter of personal tastes and these differs from one person to another, which makes impossible to be to the liking of everyone no matter what.
But still, the characters arts in the other games that you developed feel so…cheap beside the high quality characters arts made by Pinoytoons.
I mean the difference of level of quality is noticeable, Pinoytoons is obviously the most experienced artist who got to draw for the games that you developed.
Except for the artist who hails from the AAA industry (What does that mean anyway?) who is drawing for the new Unity 3D ARIA game which is your current project.
For these, I cannot possibly say that it feels inexperienced indeed.
But still, his drawings feel more like paintings for display in an art museum than characters to play in a video game.
And they feel…fake.
They look as if they are made of plastic material, not flesh.
Didn’t you notice how glossy is their skin?
In my honest opinion, this artist is really skilled, I have no doubt about this fact, but his style doesn’t suit very well video games, he would fit much more as a painter.
Just my feeling about it, no offense please, I don’t mean to be mean or anything, I don’t have any point to be, I merely give my feedback.
Also, why does Bri has knives when she hates fighting and never wanted to fight?
Phil made her learn to gather resources to make her useful for a team because “she won’t lay a finger to fight”.
With Bri’s personality, there is no way that she would carry any weapon.
Shouldn’t the artist learn to know the character well before drawing her in order to create a look which suits her personality?
But the worst is Jeo.
Jeo is supposed to be the alpha male, the man that no woman in the universe could resist, he is supposed to transpire manhood in any room that he is, he is like a space James Bond, an unstoppable charismatic special agent who seduces every woman on his way with his irresistible manhood, that’s how he is in ARIA.
Then why the Jeo drawn by the new artist looks so feminine?
Why are his physical traits so delicate?
Where has his irresistible manhood that no woman in the universe can resist gone?
Why does he now look like a K-Pop band member?
Just compare the Jeo drawn by Pinoytoons and the Jeo drawn by the new artist.
The first looks manly, the second looks feminine.
But his new ship looks badass, suits him well!
3. Yes, I think I got it right that you don’t want Jeo to be a cliché charming prince in a shining armor who saves the captive princess on his white horse.
But that doesn’t mean he has to be a despicable jerk, does it?
Making him an uncaring insensitive selfish jerk would be as much cliche, there are so many around already.
It would be going into an extreme to avoid going into the other extreme, which would be pointless as it would still be going into an extreme.
Being on a side or in the opposite side would be plain either way.
Making Jeo good or bad will be cliché either way.
What makes Jeo so interesting is that his personality is not plain, it is complicated, it is intricate.
Jeo stands between two opposite.
He is neither good neither bad, he is…complicated.
He is an unstoppable dark heroes whose personality is complex.
I noticed all of what I told in my first post because I paid really close attention to him and this is why I could notice details about him that most of people missed.
His personality is not plain, it has several layers as you said, like a maze.
But I know that he is not a bad person deep down, Arielle wouldn’t have fallen so deep in love with him that she would do anything for him if she didn’t notice something worth it deep down in him.
And I wouldn’t have been able to notice that he is more caring than he seems to be if there was nothing to notice.
He cares about people, especially Arielle, but suppresses any feeling because he plans to take corrupt GemCo down so he has to be unstoppable, he cannot allow himself to show any vulnerability, he has to seem uncaring, insensitive, in order to make sure than no one could possibly realize what he thinks of GemCo deeds.
He has to make sure that everyone think that he doesn’t give a shit so no one could possibly imagine that he wants to put an end to GemCo horrible deeds.
He has to be as dark as a shadow, that no one can see through.
So far, only Arielle sensed something in him which made her fall madly in love with him.
That has to be something really mind-blowing to have such an effect on Arielle’s heart.
Or heart-blowing should I say. :-3
Anyway, there has to be something more to Jeo than it seems to be.
Arielle is warm-hearted so she would never have fallen in love with a cold-hearted guy.
Which means that Jeo is more complicated than he seems to be.
My point is that I understand that you don’t want Jeo to be a cliché charming prince, but he doesn’t have to be bad for not being cliché.
And actually, making him bad would be just as much cliché so that would ruin your whole intent of creating a character different from the cliché protagonist.
Meaning that you wouldn’t achieve your objective.
4. You don’t want the games that you develop to be available on itch.io nor GameJolt?
I know right that you don’t want to sell the games that you develop because you want them to be free for everyone.
But what about the players who want to reward you?
This is why I advise you to consider itch.io because there you can share the games that you develop for free but players who want to reward you are free to pay what they want according to what they can afford and how much they think the game is worth.
Meaning that there you can keep sharing the games that you develop for free but you also give a way to players who want it to reward your work.
Doesn’t it sound nice? 🙂
5. Is that possible to fail a gameplay as easy as Umichan Maiko Deluxe?
I understand your point, but seeing the exact same scene again is again gets quickly repetitive and boring.
If at least there was more variety and it would be random, then at least we wouldn’t know which scene will it be this time, it would be a surprise every time and that would make it more fun.
Okay then how about this:
In order to easily please everyone, those who want to be passive and just watch and those who want to be active and interact, how about making sex minigames optional?
You could gain more relationship points if you choose to listen to what the girls want and please them but there would also be non-interactive animations scenes for when you just want to watch some hentai and don’t feel like interacting, that would grant less relationship points but you would still get to watch some hentai.
Does that sound fair?
6. What?!?
When did I talk about using Bri’s powers?
I even never ever made Jeo send her to battle precisely because I knew that using her powers would hurt her (and also because I knew that she doesn’t like fighting).
I didn’t make Jeo send Tiffany to any battle either because she told Jeo that she doesn’t like fighting either.
As I was in control of Jeo, he took great care of everyone, did everything to make them happy and never hurt them.
Anyway, there is no way that I would ask to use Bri’s powers knowing that this would hurt her.
I even didn’t want to deploy her in ARIO precisely for the same reasons as in ARIA and didn’t understand that she was willing to fight and that she was not injured after battle.
Well, since I talk to you about this, I might as well point to you that you made a big mistake of inconsistency there.
It is as if you forgot the way Bri is.
You seem to have forgotten that she deeply dislikes violence and that making her use her powers hurts her.
Maybe you should read her dossier in ARIA to refresh your memory, sending her to battle causes her to be in an injured state.
She sometimes tells to Jeo “I don’t like fighting. How can you kill someone and think nothing of it? That is an horrifying though!”, making clear that she absolutely doesn’t want to fight and even Phil told to Tiffany when she went to take Bri at his lab that “she won’t lay a finger to fight”.
To be honest, I dislike ARIO because there are too many inconsistencies, it feels as if you completely forgot a lot of things about ARIA when you made ARIO.
So I chose to consider that ARIO never happened as it is too inconsistent with ARIA.
And since I am at it, I might as well draw your attention on ARIA The Rookie.
I read this visual novel and I also chose to consider that it never happened because it is also too inconsistent with ARIA.
It really feels as if each time that you develop a new ARIA game, you completely forget a lot of things about ARIA and you generate a lot of inconsistencies who ruin the whole story as it doesn’t stand anymore.
So I have to choose to consider that never happened in order to not ruin ARIA story.
ARIA, ARIO and ARIA The Rookie just cannot coexist as they contradict each other.
This is why I chose to consider that ARIO and ARIA The Rookie never happened in order to not ruin ARIA story with inconsistencies and I am waiting for a proper sequel that ARIA deserves.
I have high hopes for the new Unity 3D ARIA game whose the gameplay looks fun but I hope that you are going to play ARIA again in order to remind you every detail about it and not generate inconsistencies. 🙂
7. Oh? Interesting. Then what is Phia’s background story?
There are A LOT that you missed but as I said, I’m not craving for answers right away so please again, take the time that you need to properly read what I take time to properly write and answer when you can, thanks. 😉
Hello,
I have taken a closer look at each of the 10 free open-source multi-platforms game engines that I listed and I want to share updated info about them:
– The links that I gave for Torque engines seem to be outdated as the games that I found using these engines all seem old.
However I managed to find a website which feels much fresher and a list of games newer so now I share the good location for the up-to-date Torque engine: http://torque3d.org/
– Moai seems to be used only for mobile games.
– GDevelop is designed to be used by anyone wanting to create 2D games without requiring any programming skill as everything is made thanks to visual editors.
GDevelop uses an “event based” system, using conditions which have to been filled so as to execute actions.
These events are compiled by GDevelop to machine code, as ordinary programming languages.
This means that the game creator uses visual editors to tell to GDevlop what conditions have to be filled in order to execute what actions without programming anything and GDevelop itself translates these human language instructions into computer languages.
This basically means that GDevelop takes care of all programming while the game creator tells what they want in human language, which makes GDevelop the most suitable games creation tool for people who want to create games but don’t have any skill in programming.
Actually, I even found 3D games made with GDevelop.
I found a work-in-progress 2D game made with GDevelop which looks really nice but that I gave up at my 5th death.
Or was it my 10th?
:-3
Here it is: https://mcs.itch.io/rob-the-dog
I also found another nice game made with GDevelop whose name is Gleamy that I didn’t get into the bouncing gameplay but that I recognize it is nicely done anyway. 🙂
Here it is: http://www.compilgames.net/dl/hosted/gleamy_demo.rar
– Superpowers and PlayCanvas both are designed for web browser games.
I had fun with a few games made with these 2 softwares and especially a multiplayer arena robots battle game made with PlayCanvas whose name is Robostorm. 🙂
Here it is: https://robostorm.io/
– Godot is my current favorite free open-source multi-platforms game engine as I have been really amazed at its potential and it seems to be really popular among hobbyist games developers!
I found quite a lot of games running on this engine, I really saw all kinds of games made with Godot, I played quite a few of them, and they felt really smooth and nice, I enjoyed them!
I even saw some commercial games running on this engine.
Godot’s native scripting language is GDScript, a Python-like scripting language, designed to make games with zero hassle, but Godot community is currently implementing Mono support, the open-source iteration of Microsoft’s proprietary C scripting language, so its possibilities are growing even wider as it adds another scripting language!
I made a research “Is Godot beginner friendly?” and I found an interesting recommendation from a teacher at the School for Games in Berlin.
Here it is: https://www.quora.com/Should-I-learn-Godot-or-Unity-as-a-beginner
I found the 2nd answer funny as the guy mocked how Godot fans come to Unity forums “to proselytize greatness of Godot engine” and said that he didn’t want to deal with nonsense while this is exactly what he did as he proselytized greatness of Unity while his answer doesn’t make sense as the question was “Should I learn Godot or Unity as a beginner?” as he is “familiar with unity 3d game engine” and he learned game engine development as a kid so he is totally not a beginner and he proselytized greatness of Unity while not considering things from a beginner point of view as the teacher did in the 1st answer as he elaborated on why his school switched from Unity to Godot and how their students’ performances improved significantly.
This teacher explains that beginners should learn with Godot first before switching to a more complicated game engine as their understanding of Godot help them to improve their scripting skill significantly, as it did for even himself who was supposed to teach it, even the teacher learned from Godot. :-3
Another point which makes me think greatly of Godot is the hilarious and smart humor of the core developers which gave me a good laugh when I read their April 1st news that I can’t resist sharing with you:
https://godotengine.org/article/godot-now-really-free
https://godotengine.org/article/godot-aims-mainstream
– The JMonkey engine is the free open-source multiplatforms engine which managed to impress me the most!
So now you want to ask “Then why your favorite is Godot if JMonkey impressed you even more?”.
It is because JMonkey might be more powerful, thus allowing to develop more complicated games, it is not beginner-friendly, so it is not for everyone.
You better know Java before using JMonkey.
JMonkey is a game development suite made especially for game developers who want to create 3D games with modern technology standards.
The software is programmed entirely in Java and they say about it that “Done Right, Java can be blazing fast. To be blunt: Java will always be easier to Do Right than C++. We provide Java developers with the tools they need to make highly performant 3D games on par with any other engine out there, without the headaches of compiler code. ”
Like with Godot, I have found quite a lot of games made with JMonkey and some really nice too! 😀
Many of them feel cubic but I don’t mind if it is nice. 🙂
For who is interested, let me share with you some of my discoveries. 😉
http://www.lightspeedfrontier.com/
https://stephensmith.itch.io/aresdogfighter
https://ghook.speedrungames.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoBD_YNKiTY
There is this guy whose name is Phr00t (reminds me of this other games creator who has “00” in their name… ;-3) who seems to really enjoy developing games with JMonkey as I discovered a whole series of games made by Phr00t with JMonkey:
https://www.indiedb.com/games/gentrieve-2
https://sites.google.com/site/3079game/
https://3089game.wordpress.com/features/
https://4089game.wordpress.com/
https://www.indiedb.com/games/5089-the-action-rpg
Thanks for the analysis. Yeah i was going to try godot at some point. Imo no engine is a simple as pick it up and go. And my main issues is the time it takes to pick up a new programming.
i like the idea and also if you win, the girls will gain less fatigue and you can have sex with them not only every second day
a few problems here. The idea begins fine but Jeo would probably leave Phia there with him, not compete to get her back. assuming he even went after her in the first place. I doubt Phia would defend Jeo in relation to his combat ability since Phia is quite confident of her own ability. Also jeo, the most wanted GemCo rogue agent, can’t just walk into a bar and nothing happen. so maybe he goes as his alias Jinru or something and has purple hair like in umcc.
The guy she is going to see could probably be her brother Roy from area 3 I think. He was already talking greasy about Jeo anyway. If you talk to him as Phia and convince him to leave he will contact Phia later maybe in area 5 or something. or sometime before TT finds the container. I think JNeo can decide to go after Phia for not. but either way she will come back.
Phis is not just some sleezy slut who only cares about sex. as you might have noticed Phia is very protective of her friends and family from jeo. She doesn’t want them to get involved. And she knows a lot of people in GemCo that might be looking for Jeo also, so better to remain with Jeo to try to get them out of the way. Plus she expresses concern for Arielle.
Also it is implied at the start of the game that Phia did a little research of Jeo. She already knew about Arielle’s connections to him. She feels confident that Jeo can’t do anything that would catch her off guard.
She explains all of this to Roy as to why she needs to stay there.
if at the start of the quest you decided for Jeo to go after phia he will show up and Roy will try to clown him. Roy is physically bigger and more muscular. You can decide to kill him or not. if you kill him phia will leave(or possibly take the hit idk) if you let him live Phia will approve know Jeo points his aggression only at the targets that matter.
maybe this can also lead into the Sui-may story also.
of Jeo never shows up Phia will return back to the ship with a lot of resources or something.
Hey man, I get what you’re saying but I feel like I should try and explain myself to look less like a yuts.
I kinda figured Jeo to be a more calculated type of jerk. Like he doesn’t care about other people, unless it’s definitely going to result in something bad to himself. And I figured he’d still have the condition and consider Phia a strong enough influence on the other girls, that she’d be able to get most if not all of them to leave. Giving him no way to heal himself, and making him more vulnerable. Which might be a big enough loss for him to make the detour.
Using Roy though is definately a better call, less characters doing more things is way better than a bunch of characters doing one or two scenes. I was stuck thinking of sex martial arts and thought “Well you always need a master guy in martial arts stuff!”
Also I originally made this sidequest to try and expand Phia’s slutty personality past just liking fucking. And since she fight’s by fucking, I started thinking of a sex type martial art she could have and what philosophy’s it would be based around. (Like sex is this universal joy everyone should experience and she wants to share that with everyone she can.) I also figured it could go with a few lines other characters mention. Like Arielle saying that Phia always shows up when she needs release. If Phia isnt just a slut but trained to know sex inside and out and can tell people’s sex drives just by looking at them.
I definitely should’ve mentioned that clearer or asked more about that since I have no clue about Phia’s backstory.
Also now that I see some of your other posts I realize my Bri one is SUPER off and I’m embarrassed and shit now.
Don’t worry, man. It’s good to throw ideas around. 🙂 And it’s good that Vortex explained the characters a bit because I understand them better now too.
I didn’t read the Bri yet in detail but I skimmed over it. Keep in mind Jeo can’t just casually go places they are all criminals with all of GemCo looking for them.
Not sure you understand the Jeo I am trying to create. He would kill them all if it helped is plan and not care about it. even Ari. He will find another way to deal with his weakness. It is why everyone is trying to get to this guy since they all think he tried to attack Lynn. They know what he is capable of.
I don’t want this is be obvious a first, but as you play through the game, the player realizes this more and more. Jeo would simply kill or put Phia in containment before letting her parade around the ship trying to do something that would result in him being weakened. While Arielle would try to keep the peace. So idk about that story as it is. we may need to think about it bit more. I would rather not have it go down like that heh. So Phia needs to not be threatening him at the start. Or maybe she does learn the hard way. idk.
as for Phia’s backstory, It is pretty well established Phia likes sex so in these type opportunities I’d be more interested in exploring some other things about her. her loyalty to friends and family and her superior sniper skills. she uses erotic fighting tactics when necessary but I wouldn’t say the fights with sex. She she would take sniping anyone from far away over try to sex them at a close range. It is mentioned in her Dossier about her sniper abilities.
It is debatable if Phia could convince all girls to stop sexing him or even leave just because he doesn’t go with her during a distress call. especially to convince Arielle. She is going to see this through since Jeo claims to be innocent. Tiffany is non threatened by Jeo at all and would defer to judgement that Jeo is required to be in top health for any of them to survive. TT also knows some things the player doesn’t yet know about. and I think Bri would stay with Arielle and TT over sex crazy rapey Phia any day.
I’ll just say that if the Phia one was out of line, then the Bri one is basically clown shoes…
Though before I try any more, is there any thing in particular that Jeo wants besides clearing his name? Because if he doesn’t care about the girls at all, then I have a hard time thinking of things that he’d willingly take a detour for. Like, if one of the girls mentioned something off their path that could help them out, would he be willing to go for it? Or is the mission too important?
Good info! That helps a lot too.
I don’t think Jeo needs to agree to anything any of them want, that is what I’m saying. because the result is the same either way, but keeps Jeo in character. Jeo will say no and the girl will leave, and the player can choose to have Jeo pursue her or not.
Jeo is trying to clear his name but also steal w/e Natan has been working on, and a take out a few GemCo execs and a few other things that will get him more power. Might even have him target Bri after she get more powerful or something. Anything where Jeo can get more power, or is on his kill list, is what he will detour for. but the problem is none of the girls would know about it aside from Phia. since the argument can be made, and evidence is shown that she did some digging on him earlier before they went looking for him, and has put 2 and 2 together by observing him closely. Phia is a special tactics sniper, so she is well informed about her targets. which at the time during the search was Jeo. Phia however would also not reveal to Jeo that she knows anything about his motives for her own safety of course.
Arielle might know this also deep down, but she would never admit it because she doesn’t want to believe it.
i would love to see more sex scenes with remi, i loved her/his threesome
Oo, what about an origin story and sidequest for Remi?! I like how Vortex wrote her as a girl who gets body modification.
I haven’t thoguht about anything for Remi quite yet. I know she has been doing research into the side effects of the saboteur Khalei Bri harnesses before meeting Jeo. She might ask Bri about some stuff and Ask Jeo about stuff to get things started.
Damn, I haven’t had time to write these up with dialogue and flesh them out yet. But here’s some suggestions so far. I really really liked some ideas Vortex had in a comment on ‘upcoming aria changes’ so I’ve tried to use them! They were excellent!
1. First addition is the obvious one – rape/’defeat’ scenes for the other enemy agents when Jeo defeats them (or Remi as an extra alternative for the futa lovers). Maybe throw a yuri option in there later (if Phia wins, say?) but I’m not a huge fan of futa or yuri and they are not as popular as good old straight sex. 🙂
This includes an option not to let Yui go after you defeat her. Alternatively, add a side quest where you take on Yui again, maybe along with her husband(? – did I remember that right?)
2. H scenes with the rest of the girls that you unlock through side quests (like Mass Effect 2 and 3 basically).
Side quest ideas!!:
TT – TT has picked up strange readings from a nearby planet (could change to a deserted space station sending out a distress signal or something else). TT needs you to investigate with her. Jeo and TT check it out and find it was an old secret science mission that disappeared. They were doing secret research into quantum shielding or something. Vortex suggested a special power for Jeo’s ship which sounds great! TT would have to install and look after it. Make it a special weapon or shield doesn’t really matter. Anyway, to get the technology Jeo and TT have to defeat the scientists who disappeared and got turned into zombies/taken over by alien parasites/lost their minds for reasons unknown (bit like Event Horizon maybe?)/whatever!
If they lose, TT gets killed or screwed… If they win, they get the special technology!
Bri – Bri has heard of an ancient artefact that will increase her psychic powers. She has been doing research of ancient alien texts/weird religious cults that seem to have had information about the artefact and knew a bit about how to use it. TT has helped Bri get a lead on where the artefact is. TT (and a shy Bri) ask Jeo to help follow the lead. They go check out the lead. They secretly meet with someone on a Gemco space base/space station (or just a city somewhere). He says he has heard about the artefact and will tell them about it – for the right price. It would be up to Vortex how much gameplay and what sort he wants but it could be like an adventure, where Jeo and Bri have to go around the city investigating the artefact and find out where it is. It could be you have to attack a Gemco facility or a black market dealer to retrieve the artefact. Or both! I also had the idea you had to go to a strange planet where the artefact was hidden in an ancient temple. Doesn’t really matter, as long as the side quests have lots of variety! Anyway, if Jeo and Bri win they get the artefact and Bri gets more powerful! If they lose, Bri gets killed or screwed (by enemy agents or an alien on the planet, depending on which plot was chosen).
1. these sex scenes for other agent will probably be this quest stuff. I don’t want to have it where Jeo is immediately able to bang the agent right after the battle. it is assumed or maybe I will have to make a small scene showing the agent zooming away in their ship. Agents like Yui, Kim, etc show up in the BG in the current ending so making it possible to keep them on the ship, forcefully or other wise, requires different endings or i’ll have at least modify it.
2. TT sounds good idk about the end, need to think about it a big more. Another TT quest could unlock the AI robot.
Bri – it would have to be something very interesting that could defeat Bri. she has like that naruto complex where she gets overly powerful from dormant power when she is losing badly in physical combat. Plus Jeo is no pushover either. So maybe that will have to be when one of the alien girls gets created ?
Ok, great comments, thanks.
I did really want ‘defeat scenes’ though! :'( ;p
What if you need to unlock them by having cleared the area beforehand and beating them within a certain time-limit? Or something like that? Make the ‘defeat scenes’ harder to get. And Jeo lets them go afterward.
Or they show up at the end because they were with Jeo?
‘Defeat scenes’ are pretty popular. 🙂
What if you make them part of a big battle near the end? Or they try to stop you at random points of the game near the end or in side quests and you get the opportunity to ‘defeat’ them then?
That way you don’t get them too early on and it fits better in the story?
Anyway, up to you of course. 🙂
I don’t necessarily want something to drive the direction of the game just because something is popular. defeat scenes can be present since they are requested but they don’t need to happen directly after space battles. Jeo is not really horny like that. he’d much rather them just gtfo of the way to he can pass through the area. The idea of them showing up at the end to try again would be a much better reason for him to “defeat” them so they do not become a problem again. I think I can add a chase minigame also that could unlock this after I work on it a bit.
Ok, that sounds great. 😀
It makes the ending a little bit more epic too, I think.
At the end of the day, it’s your game and you have to be true to the story you want to tell. I would do the same. 🙂 But I might still plead for stuff like a little girl and cry when they don’t get added. ;p
You’ve got really clear ideas about the characters and I’ve learned a lot reading the feedback here, so thanks. 🙂
(posted that last bit in case my browser crashes and it gets lost!)
Phia – Phia has heard that an old friend of hers (let’s just call her Sandra for now but her name can be different obviously) has been given command of a new class of GemCo attack ship. Phia really wants to track down Sandra and show her who is the better agent. She needs Jeo’s help to get her past other GemCo ships but she wants to take on the old friend alone! (To prove she’s better, one-on-one). So Jeo fights some of the ships (or you could do it as a raid – Jeo and Phia infiltrate Sandra’s ship so Phia can take her on in a shoot-out). Anyway, there is a showdown between Phia and Sandra with Jeo watching on. Phia and Sandra have dialogue before the shoot-out that reveals Sandra had sex with Phia’s boyfriend when she was just a young Gemco cadet/school student/whatever. Phia had never had sex with her boyfriend and Sandra seduced him. That caused Phia to resolve she wouldn’t save herself for a man anymore and would become so good at sex that no-one could resist her! Anyway, Phia and Sandra fight. Phia can get killed or Jeo can save her and they escape. Alternatively, Phia wins and Jeo gets to have sex with Sandra, maybe a threesome with Phia.
Arielle – Arielle is good at combat and cares about what is right, so I figured her side quest would have her taking on a notorious crime gang or space pirates. (So this would presumably be different to the sidequest Vortex has already been working on for her!) I’m not sure how Arielle gets involved with the gang/pirates. Maybe they come across a pirate attack on a cargo ship and Arielle says they must help? Need some more thought on that. Anyway, Arielle gets Jeo to help save the civilians and drive back the gang. (Maybe Jeo helps because the pirates/gang have a big bounty on the capture of their leader). Anyway, if they win, Jeo gets lots of money and Arielle gets better stats. If they lose, Arielle gets killed and/or screwed by space pirates.
Still thinking about the other girls!
Phia – Well people have expressed concern to use characters already present in the game over new characters, so let’s assume this is Sui-May. That’s not bad idea actually. unlocking new ship skins XD
maybe it has a extra passive ability added to it. In all of these quests Jeo would probably show up at the end or not at all. I’m not sure I want to put Jeo in any minigames at the moment.
perhaps sui-may found a ship but has to pretend to be attacking phia with some goons. so in the shooting mini game you need to shoot everyone else around her to win. then you unlock a different ship for phia and some sui-may scenes or something.
Arielle yes is something like chaotic good but I don’t think she would abandon Jeo to go after random mercs/pirates unless it help Jeo in some major way. even if innocents where thee being killed/hurt. if they had a bounty Jeo or anyone helping him would not be able to cash it in because they are all criminals themselves heh. Yeah lets give this one a bit more thought.
Ok, thanks! I’ll think about it. Maybe if the space pirates had stolen something that might be useful… Hmm… Maybe it’s a GemCo cargo ship full of Khalei, special weapons and resources.
Yeah, I can understand the priority being new characters like Sui-May. I’d like that too. But personally I’d also really like more Bri and TT eventually. And Arielle… And Phia… XD But new characters first is good. 🙂
I’d love some quests for Luma, Riley and Lynn to get in ARIA! I posted some ideas in the forum but I’m not sure if they’re any good…
I posed sidequest ideas for other girls in the forum thread, if anyone wants to look at them and give constructive criticism.
I try to put extra female characters in my suggestions so there are extra chicks to have sex with! 😀
And I forgot to put in Vortex’s idea for Bri that she tries to psychically give Jeo emotions. I like that idea. A good, nice Jeo versus bad, cold Jeo choice near the end of the game might be neat.
I don’t have any positive ideas to volunteer, but I do have negative ones.
1) Nothing that actually involves the death of any of the crewmembers as an outcome; I’m not into necrophilia and that means corpse-crewmembers are totally useless.
2) Nothing that involves a change of Jeo’s personality characteristics: the whole “lightside and darkside paths for Jeo’s personality” idea was already shut out and I’m in agreement with that.
1) Not even if it only happens when you lose a battle? For me, it makes the makes the quests seem like they mean something. If I lost, I’d just reload and try again. I can’t fault your reasoning about dead crewmembers though! 😉
2) Yeah, I got that Vortex had thought about it and wanted to keep Jeo as cold. I’d kind of like the chance to make Jeo good and have some sensual boning with Arielle (or someone else) but I can see the other side of it too. 🙂
Certainly not even if it only happens when you lose a battle.
My preferences on that score are probably linked to my being into defeat scenes but not into guro/snuff.
Quests can still have dramatic tension of some kind and thus “mean something” if you just can’t retry them after you fail, for whatever reason.
That reason doesn’t have to be “because you permanently lost your crew member.”
*shrugs*
I’m not denying the validity of death as a dramatic device.
I’m just not remotely interested in it in my porn games.
All of my games are story driven so I use devices that help drive stories. sexable characters die in other games I have made also. also keep in mind the game in still being developed, no ideas are shut out. some things are very unlikely thoguh.
not going to get too deep into this because i don’t expect everyone to like this game, but all this character dieing business is not about giving the quests drama. It is about shaping Jeo into more of a cold hearted bastard. Stressing that he really uses the characters for the moment, but if they die has no concern at all. They are not forced to die, it is a optional outcome as part of certain quests, not all of them. it what we are trying to figure out right now. But if you don’t want them to die, then don’t let them die. it is simple. I want these alternate experiences in the game for others though. even myself.
also I’m trying to see where are you getting guro, snuff, and necrophilia from. it was not mentioned from what I can tell.
Snuff from their deaths
Guro from extremey graphic depictions of their deaths
Necrophilia from the sexual purposes they can serve thereafter.
I don’t plan on getting to graphic with this potential death. they would simply not there anymore. not something like their guts splattered out everywhere. At worst would be some kind of K.O. image/pic, not terribly different from some anime fighting game. and jeo saying something like this was a waste of his time and returning back to the ship. not even bothering to get the corpse in the first place.
I know there was time travel involved, but doesn’t Maiko die in the game before UMCC? So you have your dramatic death for story purposes, but its (fortunately) still not necrophilia.
Yeah Maiko died before UMCC but Annie and Sixxe went back in time to make her stronger in hopes of preventing it from happening.
i doubt I’ll have necrophilia but it will probably be possible for Jeo to reach the end with a dead team.
The fact that you say “I doubt” instead of “I certainly won’t” in that sentence is hilarious to me.
Sounds like Jeo might be into some REALLY weird shit, man.
Sounds like Jeo might be into some really weird shit.
oh well, laugh then if you want. not sure where even got necrophilia from in the first place. I will mention to you again to please chill on the obnoxiously negative attitude you have. I can do without it while new ideas are being tossed around.
Necrophilia comes from the uses Jeo would have for corpse crewmembers.
The hilarity comes from the idea that he might ACTUALLY pick up their corpses for that use.
Though the suggestions were negative, I’m perfectly chill.
I see. I don’t have it worked out fully but it is safe to assume that the girl needs to be alive for him to be able to regenerate his power. It is also safe to assume he is not into having sex with dead people anyway.
why not space zombies^^
My idea of side quests consist of things like nameless (or uninportant named) NPCs hiring any mercenary that they could to do their work with the reward of resources and a minor stat boost to the character you choose to do the work. It would be things like significantly harder fights for the area that you’re in for an appropriate reward (resources/stats/mercenarys), which would be much better for earlier in the game than later. Accessing these little mini-quests would be from the “MAP” and would show up just like other ships or mining areas.
I’d also like to see named NPCs with side quests with them, but others have expressed their ideas on that better than I could XD
wouldn’t sell yourself short on this. The mercenary work idea is pretty good actually simple easy side quests to earn more mercs, money, and/or stat boost. yeah maybe in some areas the map has various zones or something.
Yeah, I think that sounds good. 🙂 And do suggest some ideas! I think the more suggestions the better and I’m sure Vortex does too. 🙂
Hi again i post here, because i can’t in the other link. Anyway…
I liked wilsonthegreen for phia and JD ideas for TT. I think i already post that idea but i was thinking of “defeating” the male agents by satisfying them with the girls, that can be Phia or Remi Quest.
===Ideas===
As another Side Quest what about a side quest that can make you lose… but is funny to try?
I loved the Luma initial sex idea and what about expanding that? I was thinking for example a Luma/Riley/Lynn Sidequest triying to take the main girls places and take over the ship. To do that they can try to “convince” Jeo by improving his recuperation rate with sex/group sex/whaterver (mini game?)
If you win the side quest your main team changes and Jeo recover better but you lose all the respect and the main girls for battle.
If you lose Luma/Riley/Lynn will stay in the ship and be punished by Jeo and Phia.
Another idea i have is what about not a side quest but a side work game that give the team more resources, like exploring the planets and “taming” the monster/alien girl (or man if you made this a side quest for a girl) and then selling them for resources.
I think Bri needs a main quest too but i don’t sense her powers are used enought, what about a sidequest in which she needs to use them in a minigame and improve her for combat stat?
The quest can be something like her having headaches as they aproach and enemy ship, when they explore the ship they encounter another girl with similar powers engage. The enemy girl attack at firts but Bri eventually convince her to cooperate. The girl tells Jeo and Bri that anothers Failed or abandoned experiment like her were abandoned by Gemco and she needs they help to recover them. Bri insist on helping but Jeo didn´t want to lose time on them. You have to select on leaving pri do the quest or not. You have to follow missed signals and track the girls if you win the quest you have access to a new battle comand for Jeo as the Girls help him with her powers.
I still need to compile all the sex ideas into a single place.
As for the ideas, I thought about something that a while back but I think it would be better to give them their own game instead. Plus Riley and Lynn are not promiscuous. But it would have Cain, Yui, Luma, Lynn and Riley. And maybe even have the player playing as themself as a new recruit or something since most of them are new anyway.
I think if Bri encountered another “Bri”, that Bri would already have died from the effects of the Khalei.
If you read her Dossier in the game it mentions that it would normally destroy anyone trying to use it. They only other person that has it is Maiko from Umichan games heh. so perhaps finding artifacts to sealed containment of power where GemCo tried to lock it away would fit the lore better. perhaps you can decide where bri tries to capture the energy. it can based on her stats. if she is high enough everythign is fine. if she is slightly too low. she will be come normally injured. down to critically injured and died if she is way too low.
You are right, I completely forgot about the bri condition! Then the artifacts is a better idea.
About a future game,Are you planning on doing something like a sim date in a future?
if you are playing as yourself, it could have dating elements included in it yeah. haven’t made a dating game in a while heh.
I’d be nice to add some standing, spoons, group positions would be nice, all added with raid boss battles for victory/defeat, some spies and espionage add ins for characters like special agents? Just a wild thought though 😛
Yeah, some standing sex would be good. 🙂
Spies and espionage would work because GemCo is trying to find Jeo and Jeo would be trying to get info about GemCo and Natan. So that might work well for the side stories!
I believe Amp has a spoon animation. And by standing you mean like the Goo animation where Jeo picks her up ? Raid boss battles will probably be either shooter minigame or a scrolling shooter bullet hell style game where you need to escape, or both.
The spy stuff would need to be explained in more detail.
I forgot about Goo and Jeo having standing sex! That’s what I was thinking myself. But standing doggy-style would be good! 🙂
I was thinking the standing where one of the girls would be next to a wall standing, I’m sure you get the idea 😉 and the spy stuff could be similar to how there are raid/gather quests, you could infiltrate a base with someone and try to listen to attack plans by the enemy by going through a puzzle or shooter like the raids, but if you fail or get caught there could be consequences, sexual or story related. Such as if a guard drops your hp to 0 there will be a scene with the guard to try and escape, and if the boss gets you, there could be a story changing event/escape scene. If you go the puzzle route, there could be a timed “encrypt” game where you have to solve a puzzle, find an item, etc, if the time runs out you get caught etc.
Arielle has a wall standing animation in her upcoming side story quest btw
you mentioned some consequences of the spy stuff but nothing beneficiary heh. Seems like it would be unique to Phia.
No quest proposals, but I’d love some netorare content. It would fit in perfectly with wilsonthegreen’s idea.
It really depends on how it is implemented. I’ll keep in it mind.
I was thinking maybe having some sort of events by the local planets. Maybe GemCo is oppressing the local population (like slave labour for some sort of valuable resource the planet has) and they contact Jeo for help or some other character such as Amp (since she hates GemCo) brings it to his attention. Im just gonna put this out there, but originally in my mind you would go to a battle like the space ones, and a one or two circles could be rebels assisting you to defeat the enemy, but I don’t know how hard that would be to code or how getting land vehicles would be explained (unless you are just leading all of the rebel forces against the enemy and using what they have). Another mini game i though of was maybe you infiltrate a compound and free prisoners/assassinate one or more important personal which then frees the local population.
Anyways you succeed and
-you get a bonus to your resources and possibly more mercenaries
Also I was thinking it could be a way you improve your relationship with amp since your helping others agains GemCO
Sounds interesting to me. 🙂
So you mean battles like the space ones except on land?
I like the minigame idea. Sounds a bit like some of the missions in Far Cry 3.
Yea like the space ones. I just don’t know how you’d write it into the story unless the people on the ground need a competent leader
Sounds good with Amp. Could be part of her side story. and putting in extra assistance npc objects is not too hard to do.
I thought a kind of Bri/Remi hybrid type thing. I’ll try and keep it short.
The setup would be after you send out Bri to talk to Remi and Remi tells her to go get Jeo. On her way back some pirates would ambush her and kidnap her and steal her ship. Remi would see this and rush over to Jeo’s group on her own and tell them what happened. Jeo probably wouldnt trust her but Remi would try and convince him otherwise. (Resources? Sex?)
The pirates were hired by Gemco to kill/bring in Jeo and decided to kidnap Bri and use her like a battery for some super weapon Jeo’s ships couldn’t deal with. (Fleet destroying laser? Big Emp?) Since they can’t handle Jeo on their own.
You’d probably get a few options for how to handle the rescue,
1. Send Remi in for a stealth mission while Jeo distracts them with a space battle
2. #1 but you control Remi in a raid type thing, while the Jeo stuff happens off screen
3. Use Ari’s laser to glass the pirate fleet from orbit (Killing Bri in the process)
4. If respect bar is full enough, or Bri’s stats are high enough. She could simply break herself out with her power.
Rewards
1. TT would examine the pirate super weapon and make a version of it that’s better (and probably less harmful to Bri) which you could use to disable parts of enemy fleets without using resources or going on as many raids.
2. Another mission down the line centered around Remi and Bri?
Interesting… Bri is really strong though so the pirates would have to catch her by surprise or something. I’m having that problem thinking of quest ideas for Riley!
I’m thinking at the moment maybe somehow her power becomes her weakness. Such as she does something really destructive but it leaves her drained and tired, and that’s when she gets kidnapped. Still musing about it…
you might try reading this info on riley:
http://spiralvortexplay.com/svp/2014/01/31/riley-toymiue/
she has conditions with clones of her. Maybe one is created unknowning on the ship or during a mission with her and Phia.
Phia is Rileys trainer by the way. They both use enhancement Khalei. and their personalities differ greatly because riley doesn’t like casual sex and Phia loves it. in way Phia reminds Riley of Maiko. But Maiko is not very bright heh (at least initially in the story). but Phia and Riley are both super smart.
more on Maiko:
http://spiralvortexplay.com/svp/2014/01/31/umiya-maiko/
Also Phia wants to meet Maiko (big tits who also doesn’t mind casual sex) and Riley is her best friend so she knows a lot about her.
Excellent, thanks!
I think it might be good for the story that Riley doesn’t like casual sex. That might make any sex scenes with her hard to get and really rewarding. 🙂
And Phia’s and Riley’s intelligence might be useful too. That could be an important point in the set-up for any quests they do (a bit like how you mentioned Phia is a great sniper). I’ll try to think if I can come up with any suggestions using that.
Maybe in Phia’s quest, she has to infiltrate a GemCo facility and assassinate someone important. That way she uses her tactical abilities and sniping.
I don’t even understand why they all need to have sex scenes in the first place tbh.
‘Cause they on yo’ ship, mang. It’s the principle of the thing. Can’t let ’em just get away.
Because they are all super hot and it makes Jeo powerful and dominant. :p
it is not really my objective to make then all sexable just because they are standing there.
Yeah, I understand, Vortex. 🙂 It’s got to fit the story too.
If you make an ARIA 2 where you don’t play as Jeo, I’d probably want Riley and Lynn not to have been banged yet so I could bang them then. 😀
Maybe we could get some soft pron/cheesecake of them though? Anyway, plenty of other stuff to think about.
a few things to consider here. Bri sensed Remi coming and her motives and told Jeo before Remi even got there. Bri would have sense anyone else in the area and also their motives. Hmm having said that, Bri would have insight into Jeo’s motives also. Maybe Bri is someone Phia talked to shortly after arriving on the ship. I would be good to make dialogue scene showing this.
saboteur khalei is highly dangerous to even be around. All of those guys’ ships,lasers, and physical bodies would be slowed down and weakned to the point of death getting too close to Bri. she would have to be sleeping or something to taken off guard. Which makes her “defeat” scene not make much sense (but it is there for fan service, or you can assume she is weakened from losing the battle)
having said that, a scenario like this is good, even if just as opportunity to really explain this. And to really demonstrate why she is a secret weapon. So perhaps she would let herself get captured in hopes of talking them out of trying to capture Jeo. Yeah maybe Remi can try to save her but it is not much to do by the time she gets there.
Vortex, did you ever consider featuring pregnancy somehow? Just for example, Jeo knocks up Yui as an act of revenge against GemCo? Maybe that example is bad because Jeo wants to clear his name. You could make it the wife or girlfriend of an enemy agent, and Jeo gets away without the girl telling on him. Doesn’t matter at this point. Just wanted to get your view on the general topic.
Lots of hentai fans like that sort of thing. I can go with it if it is done well and is not too realistic. I’m totally with you on needing there to be a disconnect.
Anyway, I was just wondering. I had a revenge story idea and thought about putting it in.
I have been considering pregnancy as a failure state in UMCH and it could show a pregnant Maiko or something as the game over. It can’t be in ARIA at all, for more reasons then the disconnect or general distaste for pregnant sex animations.
However I think the even more important factor may people might be missing is that unlike other hentai games, all of the story and characters in my games are connected to other games to make up one large story (except vandread love quest). So the state of the character can’t be disrupted enough where it would effect their appearance in other games later on in the story. unless it is their time to be removed from it. But Yui will be present in Umichan’s Nanako region after the events of ARIA and she would be thrown way off if she was pregnant.
Also another person asked about making ARIA following Luma’s team. And i mentioned it might be better to have it in a separate game. That would also be ruined if Yui was pregnant since she is part of that team. here is my post where I talked about it.
http://spiralvortexplay.com/svp/2015/06/19/quest-ideas-and-writing-scenes-for-aria-stuff-spoilers/#comment-5653
Ok, thanks again for the info! I wasn’t thinking pregnant sex (although that it is a common thing). I thought maybe just as part of the story. But that’s cool. 🙂 I won’t put it in any story suggestions then.
you may not have mentioned pregnant sex, but others will for sure bring it up if there is pregnancy in the game via private messages. happens every time without fail. Plus you have to consider that Jeo jizzes in everyone and none of them get pregnant either.
Fair points. 🙂
Vortex, I noticed on my last playthrough that you can get defeat scenes of the girls when you are fighting Amp. But Amp isn’t GemCo, right? So maybe disable the scenes for that area?
Just a suggestion. And it’s fussy, I know. Doesn’t actually bother me at all anyway.
Also, what if Phia loses to her brother? Does GemCo still bang her? Since she likes sex, Roy might let them, I guess.
Perhaps. Idk because then it needs to apply to multiple character as you mentioned.
characters that come to mind are Roy, Remi, Luma, and Amp. I might have a scene play but the character steps in to stop it before it starts.
@maximemartyr
Q1: Would it be hard to import all assets into another game engine in order to allow ARIA to stay alive?”
A1: not the code nor animations. again, the game needs to be remade completely.
I don’t like renpy. Those games you listed can be made in tyrano in the same way. I all I can say is give people a chance to lean how to to use tyrano effectively as people know how to use renpy.
Q2: Pinoytoons lost his skill?
A2: I said he can’t match his old animations. he has perhaps outgrown them.
Q3: Yes, I think I got it right that you don’t want Jeo to be a cliché charming prince in a shining armor who saves the captive princess on his white horse.
But that doesn’t mean he has to be a despicable jerk, does it?
A3: Understand that the character is not made for everyone to like. Harold and other similar characters are designed to not like also.
Q4. You don’t want the games that you develop to be available on itch.io nor GameJolt?
A4: iirc I said I haven’t posted there yet.
Q5: Is that possible to fail a gameplay as easy as Umichan Maiko Deluxe?”
A5: Again. I don’t plan to modify ARIA in any way. I’m very sorry if this is extremely disappointing. I started different aria games at best.
Q6. What?!? When did I talk about using Bri’s powers?
Rewards- The only ending with a reward to speak is if you keep Bri alive and the bar is full some rewards might be.
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-More sex scenes where she uses her powers to make it more kinky
7. Oh? Interesting. Then what is Phia’s background story?
It’s will be revealed in later games.
1. Then is the new Unity 3D ARIA game actually a remake of ARIA, not a sequel?
When you skip already read text in TyranoBuilder because you already read it in order to get to where you actually didn’t read yet, TyranoBuilder skips everything even what you didn’t read yet.
TyranoBuilder allows only 5 save points when Ren’Py allows much more in order to really try out every choice.
With Ren’Py, you can rewind by just scrolling up your mouse wheel and everything rewinds, texts, animations, characters, choices, everything.
With TyranoBuilder, you cannot rewind, all that you can do is read previous texts in the log but then you don’t get to see the characters nor the animations again nor go back to previous choices.
Features in TyranoBuilder are way too limited.
Also, controls in Ren’Py are way much more ergonomic.
Saves in TyranoBuilder just casually are erased without any apparent reason because this software is just technically bad.
TyranoBuilder is damn slow, the only other ARIA game that I like beside the original is ARIA Jailbreak because it bridges Amp prologue and ARIA without any inconsistency, everything fits perfectly with Amp prologue and ARIA, but the game is damn slow, the animations take a while between each turn, it would be much more reactive with Ren’Py.
The features in TyranoBuilder, meaning the possibilities that it offers, are way too limited compared to the extended possibilities that Ren’Py offers, people use Ren’Py for creating not only visual novels, this software is so powerful that you can create all kinds of games with it, way much more than TyranoBuilder would allow you to.
Ren’Py allows much more customization, really allowing you to create something unique which doesn’t look like anything else even if you use the exact same software than many others use, every visual novel created with TyranoBuilder look the same, no originality because the software just doesn’t allow much customization as its features are basic.
You can compare TyranoBuilder which is a basic software with Ren’Py which is a limitless software.
What you create with Ren’Py is really how you want it to be in every way.
You could never achieve this with TyranoBuilder.
Now why don’t you like Ren’Py?
Those games I listed could never be made with TyranoBuilder the same way, I can assure you of this fact and I already explained right above why.
It is not about learning how to use the software, it is about what the software can effectively do.
In this regard, TyranoBuilder is way much more limited than Ren’Py whose possibilities are limitless.
You could do much more than you currently can do if you learned to effectively use Ren’Py, if you think otherwise then you don’t realize the difference of capabilities between these 2 softwares.
The only reason why some people chose TyranoBuilder over Ren’Py is because TyranoBuilder doesn’t require any coding from the user.
But you, Vortex00, have experience in coding and you are not scared of using a complicated game engine such as Unity 3D while there are so many easier to use game engines that I listed in my previous post so coding in Ren’Py should be a piece of cake for you as for most of users.
2. Hmm, that doesn’t make any sense, if he had outgrown his previous work then it would mean that he now would be able to do even better.
But what you said is that he wasn’t able to match his previous work, meaning that he wasn’t able to do as well again.
This is why I assumed that he lost his skill if he is no more able to do what he was able to do.
Isn’t that logic?
3. Seems obvious to me as I said that it is not possible to be to the liking of everyone no matter what as personal tastes differ from a person to another.
But no one likes a despicable jerk, do you know any jerk that you appreciate and enjoy to be around?
So what would be the point to create something that no one would like?
I understand that you absolutely don’t want to create a cliché light heroes.
But a dark villain is just as much cliché.
If you don’t want to fall into cliché then creating a plain character is not suitable to your intent.
This is why I pointed that Jeo must not be either good nor bad, he must be more complicated than just stand on a side, otherwise he would be too plain.
In my first post that you didn’t take the time to read carefully, I listed many details that I noticed about Jeo which make me think that he cares more about people than he seems, especially Arielle.
You already have set all the pieces in place in order to create the non-cliché character that you want, you have created Jeo in a way to make him seem to be a selfish prick but with a few slight hints that he is not really how he seems to be, which makes him the complex character that you wanted, nor a light heroes nor a dark villain, rather a dark heroes who stands between 2 opposites instead of a plain character who stands in one side.
Hmm… I feel as if I understand what you create better than you do even though you are the one who creates them.
It is as if you keep changing your mind all of the time, you want something, you create something, then you change your mind, you want something else, so you create something else which doesn’t suit what you already have created.
This is why you generate so many inconsistencies in the story that you tell which ruins the whole story because nothing stands anymore as you keep contradicting yourself.
You tell something, then you tell something else.
This is why I had to choose to consider that ARIO and ARIA The Rookie never happened in order to not ruin ARIA because they contradict ARIA.
Actually, every ARIA game that you created contradict each other so they cannot coexist.
The only game that you created which fits perfectly with ARIA is ARIA Jailbreak and this is why it is the only other ARIA game that I like even though it technically sucks as it is made with cheap TyranoBuilder.
ARIA Jailbreak doesn’t contradict ARIA, it doesn’t generate any inconsistency so it doesn’t ruin ARIA.
I like the story that you tell in ARIA, this is why I reject everything which would ruin this story if I accepted it.
I don’t want ARIA to be ruined.
Oh don’t worry about it, I hate Harold, you achieved your intent!
The event that I am waiting the most from ARIA story is that Jeo finally gets Arielle rid of Harold.
I will not feel good until that happens.
4. Yes, you remember correctly, you didn’t say that you don’t want to post in itch.io, you said that you didn’t do it.
But then the question which comes is why?
Why don’t you post on itch.io?
This is why I asked if you didn’t want to.
My question then makes sense.
5. Indeed you explained that Adobe will stop supporting Macromedia Flash Player in one year so any ARIA improvement would be irrelevant.
But Adobe stopping support Macromedia Flash Player only means that it will not be updated, it doesn’t mean that it will break.
Even if the software is abandoned, it is still usable just the same.
And even if the software is no more downloadable from Adobe website in order to play ARIA, it will be available elsewhere, like every software.
ARIA will just become an abandonware like so many games, it will not die, not a big deal.
Should I give you a list of games still maintained working with abandoned game engines in order to prove you that the abandon of a game engine is no reason to abandon a game working with it?
Or Adobe abandoning Macromedia Flash Player aside, did you abandon the original ARIA?
6. Oh! I get it! You are talking about wilsonthegreen’s Bri’s day off idea!
Well it might be that you misunderstood me, I didn’t suggest to make exactly the day off that he suggested, I said that I really like his idea of day offs and I suggested to implement days off with every girl.
As I said, I would never ask to use Bri’s powers knowing that would hurt her, I am not cruel.
In ARIA, I make Jeo use Bri to gather resources, use Tiffany to cook and use Arielle and Phia for fights.
I make each girl do what she likes and since each girl has her own preferences and skills, this balances perfectly the tasks, no one has to do something that she doesn’t like, you did great in this regard. 🙂
7. Ooooh we will get to know Phia better, I look forward for this!
I like this girl.
Everyone thinks that she is a slut but I see more to her than that.
Just like Jeo, there is more to her than it seems to be.
A person can custom code everything in TyranoBuilder you mentioned. and increase the number of saves to any amount with just a setting. As for too slow, people don’t utilize the preloading effectively. I am learning this stuff now. I’ve also made several minigames and custom made features in tyrano as have other more advanced users. Thanks but I am done discussing tyranobuilder.
“Hmm… I feel as if I understand what you create better than you do even though you are the one who creates them.”
Yet you very clearly don’t. What I have written for Jeo all makes sense. You just don’t like it, and I’m starting not care to respond to your very presumptuous claims. Understand that the things you described are not created in error. They are created that way on purpose whether you accept it or not.
Also you are not the author of anything to claim something in my work didn’t happen. It is very clear to me now that you severely lack understanding about Jeo and Arielle. And by ignoring the other works you will never understand any of it. It doesn’t make sense to you to because you filled in questions you had with your own incorrect assumptions in your initial post.
Jeo “cannot allow himself to show any vulnerability, he has to seem uncaring, insensitive, in order to make sure than no one could possibly realize what he thinks of GemCo deeds.”
completely wrong. No it is not a facade. Clearly Harold and others clearly are already onto what he is up to and/or hate him so there is no reason to pretend.
“Because he is aware that Arielle let Harold to fuck her and that would hurt if he didn’t lock his heart up. Indeed, Jeo has locked his heart up in order to protect himself from pain.
He cannot feel pain if he doesn’t feel anything.
This is why he suppressed his emotions.
And this is why he seems to be an insensitive selfish prick.”
this entire analysis of Jeo this is incorrect.
“Jeo just can’t show any feeling until Harold is dead.”
This is not the reason for his coldness
“But what if his true motivation is to get Arielle rid of Harold because he actually loves her?”
it’s isn’t
“But revenge for what?”
Not revealed yet.
Why does he tell to Arielle: “Don’t worry, your “daddy” is on my hit list.”?
Arielle has to call Harold daddy because Harold likes that kind of kink during sex.
“What Harold has to do with Natan framing him?”
nothing
“What does Jeo wants to have revenge on Harold for?”
Jeo hates Harold for different reason than Natan. Jeo hates a lot of the execs also.
“Couldn’t it be that Jeo wants revenge on Harold for abusing Arielle?”
No, but he realizes it kills two bird with one stone. Killing Harold frees Ari from him in the process.
“Then why is he so cold with her?”
Because he understands the risk he faces. his revenge will probably get him killed so he distances himself from people, especially Ari.
“But no one likes a despicable jerk, do you know any jerk that you appreciate and enjoy to be around?”
The character feels he needs to act this way in order to not hurt people even worse. He is certain he going to die. But doesn’t want anyone to worry about it. He thinks that no one will care if some asshole dies. But they would be torn if a friend dies. Jeo doesn’t want to get too close to people for this reason. Despite what opinion you may have about this. This is how this character thinks. Understand that it’s not about what you think. And that it is a purposely designed character flaw.
“Ari Lover scene appears out of nowhere in the holodesk but this scene doesn’t happen in the main story like every other scenes do. This makes it feel as if it doesn’t actually happen”
it is canon
Looking at it this way hopefully it makes a little more sense to you. And thanks for the feedback but I don’t want to to go back and forth with you about my own characters anymore. I understand what I am writing. If you don’t like it I can live with that.
Alright if you think TyranoBuilder is worth it, then I will change my mind about it when you will learn to effectively use it and show what it is able to do.
I look forward to it.
Do you play ARIA right before developing a new ARIA game?
Did you ever play all ARIA games at once and pay really close attention to every each detail as I did?
Then you would have figured that they really contain many inconsistencies which have nothing to do with my tastes.
Let’s make things clear, you are the one who has created ARIA, so you are the one who has made things the way they are.
All that I point is inconsistencies.
I don’t say “I don’t like this”, “I don’t like that”, I say “This contradicts this”, “That contradicts that”.
I only draw your attention on details which generate inconsistencies in the story that you tell in order for you to fix them so the story that you tell stands.
I don’t recall having requested you to change anything that I disliked in order to be to my liking beside the request that you have granted to reconsider making Arielle lose Jeo because it would have hurt me if you did it and I have expressed you my gratitude when you have granted this request because it means a lot to me.
Everything else that I mentioned is irrelevant to my tastes really, you can check.
I have pointed details about ARIA, even quoted a lot of dialogues just how they are written in ARIA.
I have tried to draw your attention on inconsistencies.
For example, please, go ahead, tell me that the fact that Bri enjoys going to battle in ARIO and that using her powers don’t hurt her while she dislikes when you send her to battle in ARIA and she always comes back injured after using her powers is not an inconsistency, that I just say that because I don’t like it.
Please, go ahead, check every inconsistency that I have tried to draw your attention on and tell me that there is no inconsistency, that I just don’t like it.
If you want me to, I can play every ARIA games again and list every inconsistency that I notice.
Other than that, I have submitted suggestions to improve what you have already done which suit what you have already done.
I have even suggested to use what you have done in other games in order to improve ARIA, which should have shown you that I paid attention to your work and that I thought about how to get it together, not try to make you change your style.
I have also submitted ideas of stories while making sure that they suit everything in ARIA, that they don’t go against anything in ARIA, every each detail fits perfectly, which should have shown you that I really paid attention to ARIA and that I took care of not breaking anything with inconsistency.
You think that I am presumptuous? That I just want to get you to do what I like without caring about what you want to do?
Then I’m going to be presumptuous by saying this:
I am not like the other people who have told you what they wanted you to do with ARIA without making sure that their suggestions suit what you have already done.
Should I also list every inconsistency requested by people in order to prove you that I actually paid attention to your work and took care to make sure that I didn’t suggest anything which wouldn’t suit your work, meaning that I am trying to go your way?
As I said, I have chosen to consider that some things didn’t happen because they are inconsistent with ARIA, not because I don’t like them or anything.
One again, this is irrelevant to my tastes.
For example, Bri enjoying fighting and not being hurt when she uses her powers in ARIO is inconsistent with Bri disliking fighting and being injured after using her powers in ARIA.
And this is only one of many examples which make ARIA and ARIO impossible to coexist.
As I said, if you want me to, I can play every ARIA games again and list every inconsistencies.
This has absolutely nothing to do with my tastes, you are the one who has created Bri unwilling to fight and being injured by her powers, not me.
I just go along with what you have created and reject everything which doesn’t, even if it is made by you.
How is that presumptuous?
This is a proof of loyalty to what you have created.
How is it my fault that you don’t go along with what you have created and contradict yourself?
Ah! Thank you! Jeo doesn’t want that anyone likes him because he knows that what he wants to do is suicidal and he doesn’t want that anyone get wasted if he dies.
Meaning that HE CARES about people!
So I didn’t misunderstand him, he really is more caring that he seems to be, as I noticed. 🙂
Now that I think about it, I should have quoted something else when I tried to make my point:
In the Ari Lover scene, Jeo says to Arielle “What I want to do is suicide anyway, so you better off without me.”.
Damn! I am so stupid! How could I not have thought about it?!?
How could have I not thought that he didn’t want anyone to like him because he didn’t want anyone to suffer from his lost if he failed even though he said to Arielle that she better off without him because his plan is suicide?
Damn, you got me on this, Vortex00, I was wrong about his reasons to close himself off. :-3
But I was right that he is not really the selfish prick that he seems to be, that he cares about people, as I noticed thanks to a few hints that you have scattered in ARIA. 🙂
Hmm… So he is cold because he wants to do something suicidal and he doesn’t want anyone to like him and suffer if he dies.
Does that mean that he will stop being cold once GemCo will be defeated and that he will no more risk to die?
Actually he is more caring than I realized because I thought he locked his heart up in order to protect himself from pain but you made me realize that he is cold not in order to protect himself from pain but in order to protect others from pain as he doesn’t want anyone to like him in order to not suffer from his lost.
You were right, Vortex00, I didn’t understand Jeo as well as I thought, he cares more about people than I realized.
I was also wrong about something else. I thought that he wanted to kill Harold for Arielle’s sake. Then you hinted that Jeo has another reason to kill him, to take revenge for something which has not be revealed yet.
That means that there is more to Jeo and Harold backstory than I thought.
Now I look forward to discover what Harold did to Jeo to make him want revenge.
I know why Arielle call Harold “daddy”, I played her prologue, I noticed Harold say “Who is your daddy? Say it!” while he fucked her and Arielle answer “You are daddy.” because she absolutely wanted to get his permission to go after Jeo so she pleased him.
My question was not “Why Arielle call Harold “daddy”?”, it was “Why Jeo say to Arielle “Don’t worry, your “daddy” is on my hit list.””.
The actual question was why Jeo tell to Arielle that he wants to kill Harold.
Indeed, as you say, Harold has nothing to do with Natan framing Jeo, this was my point, to demonstrate that Jeo’s motive to kill Harold is not to take revenge about Natan framing him, that his motive is something else.
Jeo realizes that killing Harold kills 2 birds with 1 stone as it frees Ari in the process, meaning that Jeo does want to free Ari even though this is not his first motive.
You say that Jeo especially doesn’t want Ari to suffer, which means that he especially cares about her.
As I said, you wouldn’t have named the scene unlocked by making Jeo to make love to Arielle so much that her charisma reaches over 2000 “Ari Lover” refering to Jeo if Jeo didn’t love Ari.
And you insisted on the fact that this scene is canon, meaning that it is important for the story.
Meaning that Jeo being Ari lover, Jeo loving Ari, is important for the story.
““But no one likes a despicable jerk, do you know any jerk that you appreciate and enjoy to be around?”
The character feels he needs to act this way in order to not hurt people even worse. He is certain he going to die. But doesn’t want anyone to worry about it. He thinks that no one will care if some asshole dies. But they would be torn if a friend dies. Jeo doesn’t want to get too close to people for this reason. Despite what opinion you may have about this. This is how this character thinks. Understand that it’s not about what you think. And that it is a purposely designed character flaw.”
So Jeo is not really the despicable jerk that he wants everyone think he is as he acts this way in order to prevent anyone to suffer from his lost if he fails, meaning that he acts this way for others’ sake, so I was right that there is more to him that there seems to be.
Arielle knows it as she said “He is not a bad person deep down, I just know it.”.
Bri might have sensed this, as I have demonstrated previously.
And Phia might have understood it as she is the cleverest of Jeo’s team, Tiffany even acknowledged it as she told to Jeo “Phia hides her intelligence behind her sexual appetite.”.
So I was right that Jeo is not really the asshole that he wants everyone think he is as he acts this way for others’ sake but I was also wrong that he pretends to not care to make sure that no one would think that he wants to take GemCo down as the truth is that he wants that no one likes him to make sure that no one will care if he dies in his attempt to take GemCo down.
As I said, I didn’t realize how much he cares about others. I thought that he acts the way he acts for his own sake whereas he actually acts the way he acts for others’ sake.
He really is the dark heroes that I thought he was even though I didn’t understand him as well as I thought.
I am glad that I talked with you, Vortex00, now I understand Jeo better, thank you. 🙂
You will find issues when you fabricate things like you did with Jeo. Like I said I’m done going back and fourth.
But now I have understood right, right?
This time I didn’t misunderstand as you have explained me all the points that I had misunderstood, did I?
I have been thinking.
I understand why you got annoyed at me and why I have indeed been presumptuous now that I think more about it.
I also realize that it was a mistake to consider that some of your works never happened because they contain inconsistencies.
They are indeed useful as they make us learn more about the khalei world.
I made a terrible a mistake, I shouldn’t have said “They contradict each other so they cannot coexist.”, I should have said “Hey Vortex00, I have noticed inconsistencies in your works which make them contradict each other so what if I help you to find them so you can fix them and make everything get along?”.
I apologize for having reacted in a wrong way, reject everything which is inconsistent instead of helping you to fix the inconsistencies.
I really have been presumptuous, sorry.
Now that I have realized my mistake, I am going to fix it right away and say now what I should have said from the beginning:
Hey Vortex00! I have noticed inconsistencies in your works which make them contradict each other and not get along so how about I help you to find them so you can fix them and make everything get along? 🙂
the crazy part is, you don’t even realize that all information you claim is inconsistent is stuff that you completely made up and/or assume incorrectly.