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Going out of town:
as mentioned here in the link below i will be going out of town to a family reunion July 22-24th
http://spiralvortexplay.com/svp/2016/07/19/updates-ariothe-rookie-going-out-of-town-for-the-weekend-umch-more/
During that time my replies may be more delayed and I am unsure how much I will be able to do.
Pill Results:
Based on the pills results and taking into consideration the several comments that I read, here’s what I plan to do.
Pregnancy will remain as game over mechanic but players will have the option to give Maiko a shot that will cause her to not be able to become pregnant for the duration of the game. This may or may not be reversible. This shot will most likely be available after a certain point in the game. Not too far, but too soon for the mechanic to not even matter at all. As many of you know i’m not a fan of it but it will definitely not be too far, but since I am bothering to make it, I feel it needs to be relevant a bit before the option to remove it is there. I hope this makes sense.
Think of it like advancing to the next stage/area in a game. The previous boss or nothing from the previous area can kill you anymore. unless you go back or something. but getting the shot would be relatable to getting to the next area in a game.
I’ve been thinking about having the shot available after or during the Nighttime Menace quest that focuses on David, Jeni, Holly, and a few other characters.
Also David probably will not begin attacking Maiko until her melee is at a certain amount. Similar to the Affluently Ineffective quest Maiko needs to have 15 melee.
Also The there will be unique pregnancy dialogue scenes added for specific main characters, any others character will default to what is currently present in the game.
I’m not sure if many are aware but I should mention that I plan to add a nurses office in UMCH where the futa character from ARIA, Remi will be assigned. She may or may not only be there during certain times of the day. But she will be there primarily researching the traces of Khalei from Maiko’s hairpin. More about this will be described in Day 2 of the Rookie VN.
hopefully most people can be satisfied with this. Feel free to post thoughts. people’s thoughts/opinions is what I went off of mostly as usual, so it is very important to post why you are for or against something and not just only click a option on the poll.
The story behind UMCH and ARIA:
I wanted to kind of explain why what factors I think about when reading suggestions for Maiko H scenes or various other H scenes in for UMCH.
and for those aware there is nomination and voting for stuff in the $10 tier where I try to work in the winning ideas posted as best as possible while fitting the lore.
So far at most I only needed to change the perspective/angle on one of the ideas, because I don’t plan to have any male POV here while playing as Maiko.
And playing as Maiko is what I wanted to touch on in this section. it will be mostly a copy/pate from a reply I made earlier.
People here may or may not know UMCH is essentially a remake of UMCC. And UMCC was originally created to explain Maiko, and the characters around her that influences her, to better explain the situation in a game planned for later on.
In trying to do that task, UMCC is extremely self-defeating due to trying to add in all the different hentai requests people wanted. that really didn’t take this in account.
So Maiko became this character that is not explanatory of her future self.
I think unlike a lot of other artist, the story in UMCH or ARIA doesn’t stop, or even begin with that game. I think with most artist the lore of the story or the ideas actually begin with the the game they are currently working on. For me, I am trying to bridge gaps.
This of it like working on star wars episode 3 when 1,2,4,5 and 6 are done.
There is already material that happened before it and after both UMCH and ARIA.
Here is a list I whipped of from the top of my head of the order of events:
keep in most of this stuff is old as balls and crappy.
Ralamar Elemental Guardians (old journal)
Ralamar crystal hunter (old rpg toolkit game)
http://spiralvortexplay.com/svp/2015/08/02/ralamar-crystal-hunter-playthrough/
Semitix (a erotic novel, current being revised into a VN)
http://spiralvortexplay.com/svp/2015/08/02/the-semitix/
Daughter of Eve (my first attempt at making a fighting game from scratch, non hentai)
http://spiralvortexplay.com/svp/2014/07/30/daughter-of-eve/
UMCC/CH (adventure RPG/VN) – The Rookie (wip VN)
http://spiralvortexplay.com/svp/umichan-maiko-classroom-havoc/
http://spiralvortexplay.com/svp/aria-the-rookie/
(a game not created yet will be here)
Advance Rogue Intelligence Assault (RTS) (also has side stores)
http://spiralvortexplay.com/svp/flash/advanced-rogue-intelligence-assault-aria/
UM Snowball holiday (adventure RPG) – Advance Rogue Intelligence Operation (top down shooter)
http://spiralvortexplay.com/svp/2013/10/09/umichanmaiko-snowball-holiday/
http://spiralvortexplay.com/svp/flash/advanced-rogue-intelligence-assault-aria/
UM Dark Winter (a video animation, there is a 2D and 3D version)
http://spiralvortexplay.com/svp/2014/12/16/umichan-maiko-dark-winter-2d/
http://spiralvortexplay.com/svp/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/UmichanMaikoDarkWinter.mp4
(a game not created yet will be here)
JLCK: Gheist Prologue (crappy multimedia fusion game from a long time ago)
all the stuff except for the very bottom and top items I have made posts about. and where the lore comes from that can drives my current games like ARIA and Umichan stuff.
Piecing them all together will tell a single story.
This lore plus more is what allows me to get very specific on events that happen which can make the universe and story deep, but it is a double edged sword because it be the reason I might not want to implement something if it will cause it to not bridge correctly. because it disconnects from what happen later. or is wildly out of character with previous decisions that character made.
Even thoguh Maiko is fairly sexually active, she is not on the extreme levels some of you all might be looking for. Where the character might run around naked, or be a futa, and whatnot. These things don’t line up with why I am even making the game at all folks.
However, I have mentioned this a few time earlier briefly but I did plan for UMCH to have more than just Maiko playable. I plan to have a subset of the game where a player can take control of other more perverted, more carefree characters, where thing not totally have to fit within the boundaries as Maiko needs to. As he otehr characters, player would be able to travel to some of the same locations as Maiko. But would have their own unique set of activities and scenes. Most likely not as complex and as much stuff as when playing as Maiko, but it would focus on more of what might not fit for Maiko to do. such as the running around nude stuff, etc.
The characters I had in mind for this were Kyle, and one of the BG girls to be added later. the one with the black hair and pink ribbon. The same that is playable in Umichan 3D online for those familiar with the game. Both kyle and this girl would be able to do things that would not make sense for Maiko to do. And I’m sure UMCH would be interesting especially playing from not only from a males perspective but Kyle’s perspective.
feel free to post thoughts on this idea.
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The way I see UMCC and UMCH being a remake or kind of a sequel/remake. In my head Sixxe and Annie are trying to charge event to keep Maiko alive. So who say say how many times Annie keep charging events.
Typo I mean Annie keep going to the past changing events trying again and again and again. Would be funny if Dizzy remembers all the events even events time line in her events that was change she knows. But know one believes her.
This was definitely a good post to make, especially as it details how the pregnancy mechanic will work in the possible future and the order of events for the story. It’s a very well thought out and broken down process for the story of UMCH and ARIA, even referring to games out out yet. That structure is not something I’d expect, but is warming and well appreciated to say the least. I can tell this is gonna be good, especially if UMCH (which already seems amazing) is only in it’s alpha stage. There are some things I want to say/give feedback on with a list similar to my one on UMCH (best organization I have haha).
1. Hope you have fun at your Family Reunion man! Wish ya the best on your break/step away from it all.
—-About the pregnancy section—–
2. If you plan to have that mechanic enter the game where she can’t be pregnant, it should definitely be after the player gets that Game over scene a select number of times. Infact, after reloading the save after this limit is reached, have it turn into an event where Maiko is asking Holly if she has some “special pills” to fix this problem.
3. Maiko getting pregnant and the player reloadng the game could come to Miako in the form of dreams. These dreams she’d have could, in later builds, change the outcome of the sex scene itself, as if she’s having deja-vu and remembering she got pregnant here.
4. Maybe as the game progresses and she has more sex and gets pregnant she becomes more reluctant to take the pill. This would be driven further home by her having the dreams/deja-vu mentioned above but still going through with it, even going to sleep and causing a second game over at that same event. Of course she’d take it att some point to move on, but that’d be where the interaction between her and Holly over “special” pills to stop impregnation comes into play. That connects the ideas you had and adds to the story in her sexuality, showing how sexual the character could make her if they so choose.
5. It would be good to have him only attack after she’s at least gain the correct/suitable stats to fight him off somewhat, even if she can’t win just yet. Another thing is that as she gets stronger, maybe other students from school appear in the night to try and rape Maiko, where you fight them off and get stronger when you win. Or the opposite where she encounters a student during the night at the park and, after talking for while and even building a relationship with them, the two have sex in the night. That way it’s not always focused on defending yourself against just David, but also other students as well as developing relationships with others.
6. While studying with with Reiko (think that’s right), if Maiko comes home after being attacked by David (or other students) maybe instead of studying the two just sleep together, Reiko giving her some pills and ridding her of stress when she wakes up in the morning. Could even lead into the event of her getting the special pill, as well as involving other students in the quest depending on who’s successfully beaten Maiko during the night.
—About The story behind UMCH and ARIA section—-
7. I’ll be the first to say I’m happy to have this cleared up and have somehere to come incase I’m missing the story. Honestly, I proably won’t play the other games prior to UMCH, The rookie being an exception. Not because they aren’t good and don’t hold part of the story, but because the artwork at the time slightly bugs me. It’s the same reason i couldn’t really enjoy playing UMCC after I got a taste of UMCH, as the artwork felt Barby Dolish with the big eyes that kinda creeped me out. Sorry.
8. If you’ve already realized the flaws that came with making UMCC and are improving on them in UMCH by lowering if not reducing the amount of scenes, that’s amazing. That doesn’t mean you have to get rid of them entirety, as they could just pay homage/give those who played both games memories of the first. Also, if you’re looking back and realizing the flaws, you could if you wanted think of ways to include them so they do make sense, and while it is more work it adds to the content and even deepens the story in some aspects. Overall, just because UMCC had so many sexual encounters in it unlike UMCH might have, doesn’t mean you couldn’t find ways to work them in and make them part of UMCH. Infact, if you look at it in certain angles you could even make quests out of it to add story to the game, if that makes sense.
9. I agree don’t do things that, in the future, will not seem to make sense with the character. At the same time, don’t stick so closely to that future image that it can’t be molded or changed a little based on the events that happen. From my angle, it seems you’re trying to keep them all in this box of how they’re going to be in the future, and not letting them break change in the present. Or, in better terms, you’re trying to stay in the straight line towards that end goal/view of the characters instead of branching out and seeing how that character’s image could change with each thing they do that doesn’t fit your orginal idea. It’s like Future Trunks going back in time to warn Goku, but then seeing 17 and 18 are different in the main timeline. The future can always change, and as you build it in the present, the ideas will slowly start to mold and take better shape of a new, possibly better image of the character. No, i’m not just talking about the sexual stuff like if Maiko runs around naked, but more serious subjects. Don’t be afraid to explore and expand out of the comfort zone or ideas you have in the future. Who knows, maybe that’d come in handy and allow certain characters more freedom than they would in your original ideas. Not trying to be controlling or anything, that’s just my thoughts. Of course you probably already take this into account with the things you do and add to the game, so sorry if it comes off as a bit demanding from an outsider looking in.
10. Given the way Maiko was set to first person, I’m actually surprised and excited to see how you incorporate other characters into the story in the same way as Maiko. A great way or start from how I see it is the AI quest with Zayaka and her sister. That could be first person as she’s talking and going through these troubles, how she ended up in the place she was and meeting the guy, then falling out with him and working under those other kids to get money to pay him off.
11. In the case of locations, for certain characters and backstories like Zayaka’s and maybe others it could take them to special places Maiko might not go to, like the mansion at the end of the quest line. Idk, just throwing that out there.
12. Typo Found: As he otehr characters, player would be able to travel to some of the same locations as Maiko.
13. How would you introduce these new perspectives, or even work them into the game? Would they be new game+ sort of deal, backstory like I mentioned above, or something along the lines of when Miako is busy you could switch to someone else? I’d love to see a game like this from the perspective of Pattie or Reiko, evne Alma who seems to stick close and be at Miako’s side when she needs them. What are they thinking? How do they build and develop over the course of the story? I can’t wait to find out!
That’s about it on my end, giving all the feedback I can to bring things into perspective. I hope they help you improve and develop the game to new heights, and they they don’t point out things or subjects you’ve already addressed. If that’s the case then I’m sorry about that, just trying to help the best I can as all. Hope it does even if only a little. Peace be with you on your Family Reunion!
Totally agree, be careful not to sacrifice the game and, well, the hentai game for story’s sake
I mean, your lore is really awesome, but I think what a lot of people(at I least for me) is the freedom of choice in the gameplay
A lot of games hold your hand and tell you what to do, i really love the freedom in umcc and it is my favorite hentai game for it
finally got a moment to read all of this. Thanks for the feedback.
I tried adding all types of hentai and tried to make it fit back in UMCC. And here I am later feeling compelled to redo the game. These thoughts of what and what doesn’t work for what I was originally trying to do was crafted off and on over a period of time. Some stuff just seemed better removed then trying to shoehorn it in or rework it. But yes it is not something I didn’t consider for some of the stuff I didn’t plan to add in UMCH that was in UMCC. Some stuff maybe can workout later. But atm I just don’t see it.
There is plenty of flexible room. In my post I am talking about something that makes no sense for the character to do, or an event that would happen to them that would affect stuff later.
Also I don’t think following a story line is a limitation. Actually it is more free for me to follow a story and have the freedom to shape the characters truly how they need to be, as opposed trying to find ways to work in hentai where it really just doesn’t work. And spending time trying to force it in, try to make it fit, etc.
I talk about this concept there:
spiralvortexplay.com/svp/forum/thoughts-and-analysis-discussion/wanting-to-have-sex-with-all-characters-in-a-game-just-because-they-are-present-in-the-game/
I think the common expectation that hentai should superseded story and or gameplay is severely limiting on character design. And for me story and gameplay are more important than the hentai. Always has been, because you need that to make the moment when hentai actually happens more meaningful because you know the context and it all more or less makes sense. And imo it’s more freedom to work without checking to make sure something from UMCC is still in UMCH. Imo these things are the biggest limitations if anything.
Making more random guys rape Maiko in addition to David makes David seem like less of maniac and more of problem fundamentally dealing with the area and it’s policing, or the school it self. You can’t really fault David as much if several others are not civilized either.
RIley would not have pills for Maiko since Maiko never has a kid. Getting preggers in is ending that needs to be redone and avoided to advance the game.
in response to blackoni the game will have plenty of freedom to chose stuff and I think you will like it. The choices will just be a little more meaningful.
I don’t know if this is a bug or intentional, but the first day you basically have free will (due to insane stress levels) if you go do Tom’s test, and he fucks you and gives you a free pass on school basically. But since I did that on the second day, I only had $50 instead of the $60 I needed. I tried to buy pills, but to no avail, I went to sleep. I was expecting something the next day, but I got nothing. Could be a bug. Thought you might want to know.